Bashir sobre la entrevista ...

[Moonscape]

Martin Bashir habla de Michael ...

Martin Bashir comenta en esta articulo la entrevista y su experiencia ... ( voy a intentar traducir lo mas interesante ... pido perdon si me equivoco ...que va a ser que si , si alguien lo traduce literal mejor que mejor )

Aqui podeis ver el articulo entero en ingles

Empieza contando que a los 10 años, estvo en el Wembley Arena viendo actuar a los Jackson 5 y nunca imagino que 30 años despues conviviera durante 8 meses con Michael ... Comenta tambien lo bien que se lo pasaron en las "clases2 de Moonwalk que MJ le dio.

Despues , cuenta la experiencia al ir de compras con MJ ...dice que en un solo dia de compras se gasto 6$m por ejemplo compro una tabla de ajedrez de marmol ... todo sin mirar os precios en las etiquetas , lo que queria se lo llevaba.

Tambien habla del exito de Michael , y lo que supuso Thriller en su carrera , aun hoy el disco mas vendido de la historia ... Dice que hace 2 semanas estuvo con MJ y le dijo que tiene intencion de reeditar Thriller este año ( por dios!!! que alguien me diga si me equivoco...)

Habla despues de cuando estuvo en Neverland cuenta que estuvo en el parque de atracciones (montandose en alguna atraccion ) y que todo esta repleto de estatuas de Peter Pan ... "da la sensacion de que MJ quiere congelar el tiempo en la infancia " .
Tambien comenta las palabras de Michael sobre Joe... " durante los ensayos de los J5 , cuando MJ tenia solo 7 años Joe estava alli con un cinturon y si no cantaba bien o hacia algo mal le pegaba "... ( comenta algo que dijo Joe a MJ sobre su nariz ... algo como que no parecia de su familia ... no lo etiendo muy bien ) Habla tambien sobre la temprana madurez ,ya desde una de sus primeras canciones Big Boy que trata sobre un chico joven persuadido por una mujer ,:ein: de MJ y las consecuencias ahora que es adulto.

Ahora habla sobre MJ y el sexo... dice,que en la entrevista hablo con el sobre ese tema , cuando era un adolescente y demasiado timido al hacer el amor con su primera novia Tatum O'Neal :ein: ( no se si dice eso o estoy delirando :mueveojos ) y tambien sobre las acusaciones de abuso a menores por el "caso Jordan"

En este momento Michael insiste en su inocencia y que a pesar de que pagara por detener el proceso, en un acuerdo de las 2 partes fuera de los tribunales , el es inocente... dice algo como que pago para acallar todo aquello y refugiarse en Neverland para alejarse de lo que se decia de el en el "mundo exterior" ( tambien algo como que se rodea de gente , guardaspaldas , nanys etc ... que no le recuerden nada de aquello y les paga un incentivo por ello... :ein: )

Por ultimo habla del incidente de Berlin y dice que la ultima parte del documental se basa en la vida familiar de Michael , y que hay seradonde el espectador vera a un MJ qu nunca antes habia visto ... tambien dice que no sabe como respondera a esto MJ :ein: por que sera la primera vez que se vea "a si mismo" desde fuera ...

( la ultima parte no me atrevo a traducirla por que dicen algo asi como abandonar todo esto y llevar una vida mas normal.... y no se muy bien a que se refieren ... si alguien lo puede traducir , gracias )

[MJJ-Forum]

Tambien en el Sunday Mirror hablan sobre la entrevista ...lo unico "nuevo" que dicen es que MJ en una parte de la entrevista se compara con Lady Di al ser los dos unos incomprendidos... tambie que MJ se molesta cuando le preguntan sobre Jordan y los abusos ... y que le encanta dormir en jugueterias , dice que "dormir entre juguetes le hace felizy se siente seguro "

Jackson: I sleep in toy shops. (the sun, uk)

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[crisjackson]

Muchas gracias x la traducción esta muy bien!!!!
si...dice lo de Thriller.... :amores: :amores:
Creo q en lo ultimo no dice nada de abandonar.....

este es el ultimo parrafo:

"And while I can say that it has been a privilege to get close to someone I believe to be the greatest vocalist and songwriter ever to dance on the stage of popular music, it will be a relief to walk away from Neverland and return to the relative normality of a family life, three naturally conceived children and the weekly trip to Sainsbury’s. Jackson’s world might have been so different if he’d had the chance of a similarly banal existence"

traduccion:
Y mientras puedo decir que ha sido un privilegio el acercarse a alguien al que yo considero el mejor vocalista y compositor que que ha habido en la musica popular, seria un alivio el salir de Neverland y volver a la relativa nnormalidad de una vida e familia, 3 niños concebidos de forma natural y el viaje semanala Sainsbury's. El mundo de Jackson hubiese sido muy diferente si hubiese tenido la oportunidad de una existencia banal similar.


que mal me ha sentado lo de los 3 niños concebidos de forma natural...


-CRISJACKSON-

 

[MJforever]

La traduccion no esta mal...... Lo q no me puedo creer es lo q dice este hombre ahora!!!!

Cuando hablamos con el, no podeis imaginaros las palabras de agradecimiento y las cosas maravillosas q contaba de Michael! Nos dijo q habia sido la experiencia de su vida, q habia sido un viaje increible y q le estaria siempre agradecido!!!! Q Michael era una persona increible, un ser humano excepcional ( vale, eso ya lo sabiamos), un artista como ningun otro!!

No logro entender como puede cambiar de opinion tan rapido!!!

Todos los periodistas son iguales, solo utilizan a Michael........ como puede conocerle de verdad,cuando en realidad solo estuvo con el quizas 4 semanas, y no seguidas..... solo dicen cosasbuenas de el cuando quieren algo a cambio...... y luego...

Ya se q este hombre no esta acostumbrado al nivel de vida q tiene Michael, y q sus quehaceres diarios le pareceran inauditos, pero todos tenemos derecho a nuestros pequenos detalles unicos y q los demas les pueden parecer extranos, pero eso es lo q nos hace unicos. Y desde luego Michael es unico!!

Pero deberia dejar q la gente juzgue por si sola al ver el documental..... y aun asi...... nadie deberia juzgar a Michael ni a su entorno a la ligera. Michael tiene una vida muy complicada para ser juzgada en solo 4 semanas!!

 

[Garabís]

Escrito originalmente por MJforever
No logro entender como puede cambiar de opinion tan rapido!!!

Todos los periodistas son iguales, solo utilizan a Michael........ como puede conocerle de verdad,cuando en realidad solo estuvo con el quizas 4 semanas, y no seguidas..... solo dicen cosasbuenas de el cuando quieren algo a cambio...... y luego...

Pero y que ha dicjo de malo solo he leido lo que se ha traducido aqui, pero no veo ningún comentario negativo.

 

[MJforever]

Leelo todo y asi entenderas........



Thirty years ago, almost to the day, I saw the Jackson 5 at Wembley Arena. The concert was a rare treat organised to coincide with my 10th birthday. Standing on my seat at Wembley I was completely mesmerised by just one character on the stage. Thirteen-year-old Michael was the star of every song and dance routine. He was, quite simply, breathtaking.
I could never have envisaged then that 30 years later I would spend more than eight months in and around his world, as I have for my film about Jackson, to be broadcast tomorrow night. It was a unique chance to peer inside and experience, first hand, the life of this fascinating superstar.

In many ways, I discovered, Jackson is a charming chap. He loves to play practical jokes and mimic an English accent. He can be great fun — on one occasion he even tried to teach me the finer points of his famous dance step, the Moonwalk (“Don’t slide back on your toe, slide back on your heel”), and was sweetly encouraging despite my failure to get the hang of it.

In other ways he is a disturbing individual whose financial power enables him to do what he wants, when he wants to. I accompanied Jackson on one extraordinary shopping trip to Las Vegas. I say shopping trip, it was more like a multinational corporation buying furniture for all its worldwide premises.

The manager of a Las Vegas emporium full of — as it seemed to me — vulgar, overpriced reproduction fixtures and fittings couldn’t believe his good fortune. It looked to me as though he would be able to retire after Michael Jackson’s brief visit to his store.

In a single shopping trip, Jackson spent $6m on everything from 10ft-tall glass urns to oversized marble chess sets (he’s already got three of these in his house). As he sprinted round the store, I kept being left behind as I tried — hopelessly — to calculate his spending. But he never even glanced at a price tag.

There are very few things that wealth cannot buy him. One exception is immortality — though he seemed to hope that even this might one day be under his control. He confessed that he didn’t want to be buried. “Really?” I said. “No,” he replied, quite earnestly, “I would like to live for ever.”

In these days of talentless, pointless celebrities, it may be that we regard Michael Jackson as just another name in the lexicon of distorted stardom. But that would be to ignore his musical achievements. Thriller, the record that marked the high point of his musical career, still holds its position as the biggest selling album of all time. When I saw Jackson a couple of weeks ago, he told me he was thinking of re-releasing the album later this year. He also said he’d like to reshoot the legendarily spooky title track video.

In many ways this is typical of Jackson’s mindset: he desperately wants to go back to the future. Neverland, the 4,000-acre ranch that is his home, with its full-size funfair (yes, I did go on a ride) and extensive zoo, is populated by more statues of Peter Pan than people. Jackson is obsessed by the notion of frozen childhood.

His own childhood wasn’t a whole lot of fun. His innocence was destroyed very early on. During one of our early interviews, Jackson explained how his father would choreograph the boys in preparation for shows and concerts.

“He practised us with a belt in his hand,” he said. Jackson was just seven years old. The boys would have to achieve perfect pitch, voice and feet, or father Joseph would beat them. “I remember hearing my mother scream ‘Joe, you’re gonna kill him, you’re gonna kill him’,” Jackson remembered.

When I asked him how often this would occur, he squirmed. I was making him dwell on painful memories. “Why do you do this to me?” he said.

Despite the physical abuse, the boys never said a word and never failed to perform. From Michael Jackson’s perspective it was a period of relentless discipline combined with non-stop performance — a terrifying mix. But Joseph didn’t stop with the violence. He was also verbally abusive in a most painful way. During adolescence the lovable baby Michael suddenly grew tall and grew spots; lots of them. His father liked to ask Michael where he got his nose from and would then follow up with the answer: “You didn’t get that from my side of the family.”

It’s tempting to attribute the star’s ever-changing face to a lack of self-worth engendered by this early taunting. But Jackson is evasive on the subject of surgery. When I asked him about the rumours that he had had implants in his cheeks, a dimple made in his chin, his lips enlarged and his nose reconstructed, he practically begged me to stop questioning him. Each time his response was the same: “Oh please . . .” Then, like a petulant child, he exclaimed: “It’s stupid!” Dysfunctional childhoods are all the rage for excusing the actions of adults, yet Jackson seems to have started adult life at the age of six. By then he was rehearsing at home and two years later he sang lead vocal on his first record, entitled Big Boy. The song concerns a young man trying to persuade a woman to reciprocate his affection for her. And, although aged just eight, his inflection and vocal appeal is as good as any love song you will hear in today’s charts.

Perhaps the lasting impact of Jackson’s childhood was to fabricate an environment around him that has prevented him from living in what most would call “the real world”. How many 12-year-olds receive royalty cheques of $200,000? How many musicians can claim to have assets of $1 billion? He may or may not be strictly accurate in his figures, but he has sold millions of records and somebody has banked the royalties. Money is not something he’s ever had to value too much and it’s allowed him to create an alternative universe.

I asked Jackson how much he thought he was worth. “It’s way up there,” he said, then tailed off. “No, go on,” I persisted, “just how much?” He wouldn’t say. He said he was too embarrassed. The obvious answer is “too much”.

Probably the most contentious issue for Jackson is sex. I tackled him on his developing sexuality as an adolescent, on being too shy at the time to make love with his first girlfriend Tatum O’Neal, and on those devastating allegations dating back to 1993, when he was accused of having sex with a boy called Jordan Chandler.

Our relationship almost collapsed at this point. He has always denied the allegations and, ultimately, he hangs all his being on the fact that, notwithstanding a multi-million-dollar out-of-court payment to Chandler in 1994, he has never been found guilty of any form of child abuse. Trouble is, if the alleged victim gets paid, then the alleged victim withdraws the complaint, and then many outside of Neverland assume the worst. Again, he operates within a place that is separate from the norms and customs of the outside world.

Yet it is his current predicament that is just as disturbing as any allegations of child abuse. He’s surrounded by bodyguards, nannies and other ancillary staff who only say what they think he wants to hear. And so the fabricated “world” in which he lives continues to stand firm. Every handsomely paid member of staff has a strong financial incentive to keep him sweet.

In Berlin last November I arrived at Jackson’s hotel room just 30 minutes after he’d dangled his youngest child from a balcony. Not one of his entourage was prepared to tell him that what he had done was ludicrous and dangerous. Because he was happy with the hundreds of fans outside his hotel, everybody had to share his view.

The final section of our film focuses on his own family and I think viewers will see Michael Jackson in a different light. How he responds to the film is impossible to predict. It will be the first time that he sees himself from the outside and this may prove to be a service to him, though I’m not entirely confident.

And while I can say that it has been a privilege to get close to someone I believe to be the greatest vocalist and songwriter ever to dance on the stage of popular music, it will be a relief to walk away from Neverland and return to the relative normality of a family life, three naturally conceived children and the weekly trip to Sainsbury’s. Jackson’s world might have been so different if he’d had the chance of a similarly banal existence.




Living with Michael Jackson, a Tonight Special, tomorrow at 9pm on ITV1

 

[Garabís]

Bueno hay un par de cosas que no entiendo pero en general me parece bastante objetivo y nada ofensivo. Todo lo que dice ya lo sabíamos ¿no?.

 

[Betty]

Yo tampoco veo que haya dicho nada malo, y tambien tenemos que pensar qeu para él todo esto es mas trabajo que diversión, habra que ver la entrevista entera para poder opinar mas en profundidad.

 

[MJforever]

No se, son muchas cosas, ya se deberia estar todo traducido, pq hay parrafos q las expresiones q el utiliza en ingles son totalmente prescindibles ya q son muy ofensivas.....

Es la manera de decirlo..... si es un periodista, deberia saber como escribirlo y como la gente lo va a interpretar. Sin tener q ofender a Michael! Deberia ser objetivo y no lo es!!

Esperemos a ver el programa y luego podremos hacer mas comentarios!!

 

[Orbitt]

es increible gracias por la traducion es mu interesante y haber cuando tenemos la entrevista entera traducida gracias

 

[Edna]

hacer el amor??? wow!!!!

 

[Carolina_Mendoza]

yo opinare hasta ver la entrevista :|

 

[Aransay]

ay queiroverla