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Bashir Webchat Transcript
2/12/03 12:08pm PST
2/12/03 12:08pm PST
alastair coyles, finvoy: was it your most interresting interview ever
->Martin Bashir replies: What was special was that it wasn't just an interview - it was an observational documentary and very challenging. I have an inate curiosity about people. Each story we approach in the same way with curiosity and interest and determination to get behind the image. It was a challenging experience and I'm looking forward to a break.
Damian Kuti, Bristol: Do you think Miceal Jackson can recover from this interview.
->Martin Bashir replies: It wasn't a traumatic experience. Press coverage has been difficult for him. If concerns are expressed about the way he behaves with children and if it makes him careful in the future then that's a good thing. I'm sure he'll bounce back, he's a talented musician, he continues to make songs and he wants to get into the movie industry, and I don't think his life has been in any way disfigured by the film. The film did disclose some difficult facts.
Samantha Delaney: Did you get to see Michael's children without their masks on?
->Martin Bashir replies: Yes. On a number of occasions and I got on really well with them. They're lovely children. When were in Berlin, Prince, his 5 year old son, challenged me to a water gun fight. We raced around this huge suite and had a fantastic water pistol fight and I beat him. They don't wear their masks at home and in controlled surroundings. One of the things that we did, he was very concerned about his children potentially being kidnapped or attached and that's why they were covered up. When he went to Berlin zoo there were 200 photographers. We never showed their faces because he was so concerned about the matter.
Martijn Ubink, the Netherlands: Is there ever going to be a chance to see the parts of the documentary that were cut out because of the confidentiality agreement?
->Martin Bashir replies: By way of explanation, I asked him very detailed questions. I read out to him part of the statement from the child and challenged him on the specific facts. It was not possible to broadcast any of that because of an agreement between Jackson and the family. Our legal advice was that we could not broadcast it. Circumstances may change, but at this point in time we will not be broadcasting it. This was almost 2 hours of factual documentary. In our audience ratings, barely no-one left the programme. The whole of his life is so fascinating and people kept watching for that reason.
Julie Atkinson, Brighouse: Why didn't you push him further when he said he hadn't changed his face?
->Martin Bashir replies: If you watch the film the first time I ask him about it, have you had your cheekbones raised, have you had your nose changed - he denied it all. I went back to it later on. I was asking him to compare his face with what it looked like years ago. If somebody's not prepared to answer the question, you can keep asking, but he gave us what he believes to be the truth. I believe if I asked him questions about his face for two hours there would be no change. He was going to hold firmly what he wanted to say, but what's important is that when you compare the two interviews, by the second interview it had gone up to 2. H
Leon Warren, Ipswich: Did he ever take strong offence at any of the questions you posed him and did you leave on good terms? There was no goodbye scene between Michael and yourself in the interview.
Jennifer Chigwende, London: You had eight months worth of footage, how did you pick the parts that you decided to show?
->Martin Bashir replies: We wanted to do 3 things. Be true to the narrative of the way things developed in the relationship. We wanted to make sure that the film covered the main issues of his life. Musicianship, appearance. Those were the 3 criteria we would use to decide what would be in. Didn't believe we would end up with a 3 hour long film. We gave this the biggest possible canvas to convey the most accurate, fair representation of what it was liked to live with MJ.
Seth Mason: Do you feel that his statement saying that you betrayed him or his children is true or reasonable in any way?
->Martin Bashir replies: Not at all. I agreed that we would make an honest film about his life. It was almost 2 hours of television which is an unprecedented length of time for a single factual documentary and over that period, there were aspects of Michael which were wonderfully charming. At the end of the day, we stand firmly by the film. There was no betrayal at all. A number of articles have drawn on allegations in the past, what happened in 1993 when he was accused but never found guilty of abusing a child. A number of people said to me he came across in a fair way. The film was fair to his musical achievement and gave him every opportunity to explain himself. He was never prevented from explaining what he was doing.
Martin Bashir says: I never saw anything that would qualify as a criminal activity. As we got to know each other, I became concerned about the fact that he did appear to have relationships with children, and they were not related to him in any way, and as with the case with Gavin, he said he had been helped to be healed from cancer. Without prompting, he simply said "I slept in his bed". By the end of making the programme it was a deep concern. An individual who is 44 years old, sleeping in the bed of children who have no biological relationship with him. One childcare expert raised this issue. She said "If this was happening in an area where poverty might be high, and if an individual of no musical status was sleeping in the bed of 12 year old boys what would the authority have done?" I did not set out to ensnare him with a child. I was curious about the relationship and they volunteered this aspect of their relationship. I became more disturbed by that. I think that is reasonable. I am not - I repeat - not accusing anyone of being a child molester.
Pete Goodman, Cardiff: Do you think Michael Jackson's outward 'childishness' enables him to relate better to children than to adults?
->Martin Bashir replies: You say he's childish, but he's incredibly astute. He reads contracts with clarity, he's very professional about business transactions. He does have an affinity with kids. There's been this 16 second clip mentioned where I'm talking about his children. He is brilliant with his children. They have water fights together. He is a marvellous father to his own children, but there is a concern about the way he relates to children who are not his own. I said earlier that he was sharing his bed with Gavin and I have to correct myself, he was sharing his bedroom.
Kelly Wallace: I sensed your fear about Michael Jackson's obsession but why didn't you stop the project and go to the authorities?
->Martin Bashir replies: Obsession with what?
Barbara Bennett: Does he have any contact with his brothers and sisters or any member of his family?
->Martin Bashir replies: He forgave his father for the violence in his childhood. I think he still speaks to some of his family - he certainly speaks to Janet Jackson and has a high regard for Jermaine and Tito. I never had the opportunity to meet any members of his family at the house. He would say that he still has a great deal of affection for his family.
Tessy, Nigeria: He mentioned women around his house, taking care of the children? Who are they?
->Martin Bashir replies: The most hardworking child carers I have ever met, and they are brilliant with the children. When we drove down to his home, I was in the car with both the nannies and the children get on very well with the nannies. Michael Jackson has some contact with his mother. I never had the opportunity to speak to her, but I know she is involved with the children. There is a large number of people through from zoo-keepers, cleaners, through to cooks, and there is a large number of women and he is referring to them when he says the children has contact with women.
Rhys Ingram, Bristol: Did Jackson's entourage seem uncomfortable or unhappy with his behaviour? Was there ever a time where you felt so uncomfortable with the situation that you felt you had to leave?
Rachel Johnson: What did you think of him when he went into his favourite shop and spent $6 million?
->Martin Bashir replies: He was simply interested in purchasing what took his fancy. The Thriller album is still the biggest album of all time. That is still returning huge royalty cheques. It was a remarkable shopping trip - it was a revelation to me, as I would be bothered about paying for all those things but to him it wasn't a concern. """
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