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The haters

So, recently, I've found some really retarded MJ haters on the web, that attack us MJ fans because they can't see the actualy truth about MJ, and that he 100% NOT at pedophile.

So given that, here's some reasons why:

1. “He’s spends time with kids instead of women, therefore he is a child molester”. If so how come all the kids he spends time with aren’t accusing him? How come all the victims that exist in your imaginations never come forward with allegations. He’s had thousands of kids at Neverland over the years, and only three accusers, all whose parents happen to be con-artists chasing after money. If they could convict Jackson in criminal court they would automatically be able to wipe him clean in civil court. Money talks. If all these victims are out their they would have come forward for a shot at millions of dollars. Its telling that only the shadiest people manage to come forward.

2. “He paid them off so he’s guilty.” Do you know the difference between a civil case and criminal case? WTF is something as serious as child molestation doing in civil court instead of criminal court. If you think someone molested your kid, you go straight to the cops. You don’t call your lawyer to file a lawsuit and then refuse to cooperate with the police once you get a settlement. Explain to me where in the settlement Michael Jackson's Big Payoff - June 16, 2004 does it say the money is contingent upon the accuser's failure to cooperate with the police. It was the Chandler’s decision and theirs alone to run after taking the money. If you bother to read it (I know its to difficult for idiots) you’d notice MJ claimed he’s innocent in the settlement and accuser and his lawyers agreed to sign it. By this idiotic logic, Janet Arvizo and her children were telling the truth when they claimed that a JC Penny’s security guard beat and sexually abused her because JC Penny settled with her for more than 100,000. Please.

3. “He had money so he beat the rap.” Martha Stewart, Paris Hilton, Chris Brown, Madoff, etc. I guess did not have enough money to beat the rap. Michael Jackson’s trial was one of the most expensive trials in U.S. History. It cost taxpayers 2.7 million dollars. Michael Jackson's Trial Cost $2,7 million - The Michael Jackson's trial cost the Santa Barbara County taxpayers about $2,7 million - Softpedia Sneddon had been chasing after Michael Jackson for 12 years and he still could not find any evidence or credible witnesses, despite ransacking Neverland twice with 70 police officers, setting up a hotline for alleged victims to come forward, and traveling around the world looking for victims. Also, I thought Michael Jackson was broke? Thats what all his detractors in 2005 claimed, while at the same time claiming he 'got off' because he was rich.

4. “OJ Simpson got away with it, so Michael Jackson got away with it too.” People who think OJ is guilty can point to evidence, something that MJ haters have a hard time doing. By that same logic, Charles Manson is also innocent because some people are wrongfully convicted. Therefore, we should release all convicted criminals from prison. RUBBISH

5. "He sleeps with boys." This is not illegal. If you want to use this as proof of his guilt, then at a minimum the boys he's sleeping with have to be the ones accusing him, NOT you. This didn‘t happen in the Michael Jackson case, contrary to popular belief. Gavin Arvizo the boy accusing him in 2005 never slept in bed with Michael Jackson, according to the Martin Bashir interview and witnesses at the trial. He slept in the guest room with his family. Macaulay Culkin, Wade Robson, and Bert Lewis, all testified they slept with Jackson in the early 90s and nothing happened. Do you know better than them what happened to them? The maid's son was not even one of Jackson 'special friends' as the prosecution liked to call the boys he supposedly 'groomed'. That kid was never invited on any vacations or given any expensive presents and never invited into Michael Jackson's bed. His claims that Michael Jackson molested him actually contradicts the prosecution previous portrayal of Michael Jackson as a serial pedophile who carefully choose and grooms his victims. According to the maid's son Jackson is an impulsive pedophile who stick his hands into the pants of any random kids who happen to be hanging around the place. LMAO! Jordie Chandler who is the only accuser to sleep with Jackson, (the boy got the settlement in the early 90s) skipped the country so he wouldn't have to testify in the 2005 case. Gee, I wonder why? Also, witnesses at the trial testified that their were a few girls who slept in Michael Jackson's bed, one of which was Macauley Culkin's sister in the early 90s.

6. “There was ‘lurid’ testimony. 'Jesus Juice!!!' ‘Little boys never lie’. When a child speaks we should believe them…” I can give lurid testimony about you too. I wonder if that makes it true. Here’s one of my favorites from you tube. On the witch hunt for victims Diane Diamond comes across a boy who could give ‘lurid testimony’ that Michael Jackson molested him and details of his time at Neverland. She believed him and wasted months trying to corroborate his story and even gets the police involved. Turned out this kids a liar who’d never even met Michael Jackson.
YouTube - Michael Jackson framing Videoed Hard Copy April 27 1995 little-seen footage

7. "Would you leave you're kids with him?" I wouldn't leave my kids with you either. That must be proof that you are a child molester. Michael Jackson has been around the children of countless celebrities, including Yoko Ono’s son, Paul McCartney’s children, Quincy Jones kids, Whoopi Goldberg, and business associates. They all knew him and judged it was safe for their kids to be around him. So every idiot using this line of reasoning needs to get a clue.

8. "He chose his victims carefully, that explains why all his accusers are con-artists" If he was so slick of a pedophile to 'carefully choose his victims', maybe he would have been slick enough to know not to come on TV and announce to the world 'the most beautiful thing you could do is share your bed with a child'. LOL. Michael Jackson had nothing to hide from anybody. If he's pedophile he was doing it in everybody's face for the past 30 years of his life. He was parading his supposed 'victims' around with him in public, taking them to the Grammys and other award show. He's babbling on and on about how special children are since the late 70s. He mentions children in almost every interview. I read Quincy Jone's autobiography and in it he explains how close Michael Jackson was with his daughter who was 8 when Jackson was 20. He recounted an incident when his wife discovered that his daughter had made more than 91 phone calls to Michael Jackson. Therefore, Quincy's daughter must have been one Michael Jackson's first 'victims'. Only people with sick minds think that every close relationship has to be sexual. If Michael Jackson wanted have sex with kids, there are a lot smarter ways to go about doing it. He didn't have to build Neverland or waste time 'grooming' anybody. He could travel to some foreign country and secretly buy children to molest in private and he would never have been caught because he had enough money and resources to keep his activities hidden.

9."PORN+ALCOHOL+CHILDREN=CHILD MOLESTER" This has to be the dumbest. How many households in America can you find the same things; therefore, every parent who owns porn and has alcohol in their house must also be molesting children. Please. There is no evidence that Jackson either showed the boy porn or gave him alcohol, other than the testimony of the boy and his family who I said before had no problem lying about being kidnapped and held prisoner. Fact is, the police found nothing incriminating , no Kiddie porn, or naked pictures of boys. The only thing they found was this, http://mjjshop.com/shop/images/whyplasticase.jpg, a publicity photo of him promoting his nephews’ album and a legal art book sent to him by fans.

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Hi there, i totally agree with you. it infuriates me any time i read shit like that. But undoubtedly, what enrages me the most is when i HEAR hateful comments like that straight from people. I have a 10 year old daughter who LOVES MJ and listens to him (just like me) and enjoys him and sees him for what he really was. Well i already had three people, adults of course, from family and friends trying to convince her to not like him and that is really aggravating. They don't know anything, what they say is such BS, one of them even said that he didnt write any of his songs (??), you see total crap that they made up. The worst part is that people make up crap and spit it out of their mouths and everyone believes it,but you say something good that he did and that doesn't matter at all. I often wonder what is the real reason behind all that hate. If we as fans saw how devastating the allegations, acusations and trials were for him and what they did to his life, i can not imagine how he felt. Totally broken i suppose,and we can clearly see it in his last years. I often wonder if there is a way or a day that his name will be cleaned and justice will be done.
Thanks for writing and take care. You can write any time you need someone to listen.
 
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Te recomiendo que, antes de contestar a un post, te fijes en algunas cosas, como la fecha en la que fue abierto o contestado por última vez. He borrado algunas de tus respuestas por eso. Has 'revivido' temas que llevaban hasta 10 años abandonados. En este otro, si te fijas, el autor fue baneado del foro, así que no podrá contestarte.

No te preocupes por estos fallos, todos hemos sido nuevos alguna vez :p

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