The Show, which aired on Fox in the United States 20 Feb. – Part two.
Bashirs will come and go, but Michael will live forever in our hearts. -Karen Faye
"The bigger the star, the bigger the target," is Michael’s response to all the untrue press he has received. Michael continues to mention some of the false news given about him in the past. When he mentions old rumours about "sleeping in a hyperbolic chamber", Bashir responds: "I’ve seen where you sleep, it’s not a hyperbolic chamber."
"What inspired you to make your home like this?" asks Bashir.
"It inspired me because I was {making my home} myself," responds Michael.
"What do you regret?" asks Bashir.
"When I was 12-years-old, I was under Motown contract. Right down the studio, there was a ballpark. ...I wanted to just have fun with the big kids," responds Michael.
"I was raised with adults," states Michael. "When kids were sleeping, we were doing clubs. The strip tease was after us."
When the scene when many children are entering Neverland, they called out, "Michael!" The looked happy and surprised to be seeing Michael Jackson.
"...I was here yesterday and I saw it, and it’s nothing short of a spiritually kind thing...," states Bashir in a conversation with Karen Faye. She complains about the negative statements the press/tabloids give about Michael Jackson. "It’s disgusting. That’s disgusting. Well, we aren’t doing that here." -Bashir
Faye states that no positive news is given about Michael.
Bashir replies in a very sympathetic voice, as if he were Michael’s truest friend: "I know, I know but I’ve told him. I know. They never talk about it, and I’ve said this to him, and what I wanted to convey is those two things. And what we’ve had the privilege of doing this week is not only talking about the musical genius, but about what we saw yesterday which was incredible. ...But when Michael’s talking, but when he’s talking about the things that he’s passionate about, it’s obvious that it’s, it’s in his eyes.... this is what’s in his heart"
"I feel totally at home with {children} because they don’t judge you," says Michael. He goes on to say that children are funny. Smiling, he recalls a time when a child sees Michael’s home and has the following conversation:
"Michael, you own all this?" asks the child.
"Yes," responds Michael.
"You paid all this?" -child
"Yes" - Michael
"And you still have money left over? I can’t believe it" -child
"Adults have let me down. Adults have let the world down." -Michael
Karen Faye also makes statements in this broadcast. She has been Michael’s makeup artist for 20 years. "It’s hard to imagine [Michael] opened the door not only to Neverland, but to his heart," states Faye. Her facial expressions indicative of lament for Michael getting hurt. "They cut questions out," remarks Faye, referring to tabloids and the press. "They twist everything. How could people be so cruel? That’s why he doesn’t do interviews that much."
About halfway into the broadcast, Maury Povich makes the following statement about people close to Michael who were interviewed: "No one interviewed for this show received money."
Bashir tells Michael that he asked Prince about his mom, and the latter replies that he does not have a mom. "What does it mean that he doesn’t have a mother?" Michael is asked by Bashir.
"She doesn’t, she can’t handle that," answers Michael. "I can’t reveal that," he continues, respecting his first two children’s mother Debbie Rowe’s privacy.
But, in today’s show, Rowe answers the following:
"My kids don’t call me mom because I don’t want them to. ...People don’t understand that they have this notion of Beaver Cleaver. It was reality in the 50’s, but not in the 21st century. ...I will always be there for him. I will always be there for my children. ... I didn’t leave my children. They’re with his father where they’re suppposed to be."
"People should be parents," Rowe tells us, "and he’s one of them."
I said you need to be a dad. ... Please let me do this" -Rowe speaks about what she told Michael she wanted to do for him: give him children. She would have never become a mother if it weren’t for Michael’s wanting to be a dad. "You don’t know what they can do" reports Rowe that Michael replied to her after she tells him that she wants to make him a dad.
"Did they? Or didn’t they?" -supposed questions asked by the public.
"You had sex with Debbie?" very doubtfully asks Bashir.
"Yes, yes," shyly answers Michael.
"We were very excited," admits Rowe referring to her pregnancy. "Michael was very excited when we had a contraction.
"I had a colourful language," continues Rowe about the time she was in labour. "He would cut me off with ‘shoot’ or ‘fudge’."
Rowe states that she knew Michael for 17-18 years when she had Prince, Michael’s first son.
"The look on his face," with tears on her face, Rowe remembers Michael the moment after she gives birth. "I’d never seen him that happy. That’s what made it wonderful for me was to see that look on his face."
"We’d go out and do stuff," Rowe states. "We had a good time. He’s a lot of fun." Michael and Debbie are shown riding a motorcycle: Debbie as herself and Michael disguised as a fat character of Ghosts.
Why did Michael and Rowe break up?
"I couldn’t go to the grocery store... I was used to it. Michael was more than generous. He would say that don’t have to go to the grocery store, but I wanted to. I like to do things for myself. That’s what I’m used to." -Rowe
"If he would call me right now and say ‘lets have 5 more’," says Rowe followed by a snap of the fingers, "in a heartbeat."
It’s hard when you’re an entertainer. I’m married to my fans. I’m married to my children. I’m married to God. I’m married to life. - Michael
Why did Bubbles have to go?
Bubbles are with a caretaker with many other monkeys. Bubbles were in a "teenage phase" when "they challenge you. ...They’re very strong. ...You could lose a finger," states Michael. He remembers when Bubbles used to be with him, "I would hug him or my deer. They don’t complain.... [Bubbles] would help me clean ... [he] would go himself, and he [would] pick up his spoon. He’s very polite."
About Michael’s children wearing masks and scarves: "I obviously have some influence," reveals Rowe. "I’m the one who’s terrified. I’m the one who’s seen the notes that they’re going to take [the] children. ...Pretend it’s Halloween. [What’s the big deal?] Are the scarves not matching? We’ll work on it."
Michael made statements about holding Blanket, his 3rd child, over a hotel window in Germany. "I was holding that baby so tight. ...I know better." He goes on saying that people say things about him like, "[He’s] an eccentric idiot dangling his baby over a balcony like a nut. ...I took my other children up there and did the same thing," reveals Michael as we the viewers see him lifting Prince and Paris on the German hotel room window. ...[The fans] wanted to see the little ones. ... I’m happy that I let the kids get waived at."
About Michael’s children wearing masks and scarves: "I obviously have some influence," reveals Rowe. "I’m the one who’s terrified. I’m the one who’s seen the notes that they’re going to take [the] children. ...Pretend it’s Halloween. [What’s the big deal?] Are the scarves not matching? We’ll work on it."
In the never-before-seen footage of the interview, Bashir states: "One of the things that I noticed about you over the years is your relationship with your children, and I have to say to you that I didn’t know you before, and you haven’t put on a front. And in fact, it, it almost makes me weep when I see you with them because your relationship with your children is spectacular," states Bashir in what sounds as admiration. "Your interaction with them is just so natural, so loving, so caring."
"I’m crazy about them," responds Michael. "I would die for them. I’m crazy about them."
Bashir says that when Michael tells his children that he loves them, Michael replies: "I love you more." "I’ve heard it once, I’ve heard it a million times," states Bashir.
Michael talks about his children: "They say the cutest things. ... ‘Daddy, thank you for giving me a brother’"
What could have persuaded Michael to have this interview? It was made to answer all the questions that have been developed throughout the years.
When Michael goes to the zoo with his children accompanied by Bashir, the latter states, "Our camera man fell over." In addition, he asks Michael if it was "worth the pain to go see the gorillas"? What was not shown in Living With Michael Jackson: "I didn’t know it was gonna be like that." Micheal "was informed that the zoo would be closed down, but they didn’t. They left the gates open. ... I don’t wanna go [to the zoo] in the day, especially with my problem with the sun, but we only had one slot."
"That thing was not a big deal," comments Michael’s photographer regarding all the paparazzi, etc. at the zoo while Michael was there with his family. "He goes through this all the time. ...I’m not here to defend my boss. I’m here to say the truth."
"You just don’t seem to enjoy your success," Bashir tells Michael.
"I enjoy it behind the gates," replies Michael. "If I do it in public, it’s work again."
"Are you lonely?" asks Bashir.
"I used to be very lonely.... I used to walk the streets looking for people to talk to," reveals Michael.
"When do you feel alone?" -Bashir
"Usually in hotels when there’s thousands of fans (out there) you feel trapped. If you go to a book store, they wonder why do you buy that book? You can’t go anywhere. ...I don’t want to complain, but it comes in the territory. It’s almost like you’re forced to be different. ...I would love to do that... shopping with carts. Everyone’s chanting or asking for autographs....-Michael
Micheal remembers dressing up in desguise: His facial expression shows lots of excitement while saying: "I sat on a bench at Disneyland watching people’s characters."
Joe Jackson, Michael’s father was interviewed for today’s broadcast. "He had his brothers to play with him. ...They all got whippins."
"We got disciplined the only way he knew. ...We never got into drugs. We never got in trouble." -Jermaine Jackson
"The way it was narrated, it was just not fair" - {Jermaien Jackson}
After Michael exposes his forgiveness of his father’s beating him, the following is not shown in Living With Micheal Jackson:
"He’s a genius. The man is a genius." -Michael
"But he injured you when you were a child." -Bashir
"But look what came out." -Michael
The 1993 allegations were brought up again: "He would never hurt a child," Rowe states. "It’s not him. He would never do anything inappropriate with a child."
Footage of Gavin when he used to be in a wheelchair with almost no hair on his head due to chemotherapy. Gavin was given "2 weeks to live" but now he’s much alive. Unfortunately, Gavin and his mom are in seclusion because of all the comments and propositions for interviews they have received after the airing of Living With Michael Jackson. Furthermore, Gavin’s mother made a statement including the fact that Bashir did not obtain parental consent to include her son in the interview.
About surgeries, Michael states that "most celebrities" and "most movie starts" do it. But, he also mentions that people saying that he’s "overly obsessed with it" are not saying the truth. "I didn’t have my cheeks done. I didn’t have my chin done."
"[People have said] I was putting on cream to become white. It’s not true. I have vitiligo." -Michael
"We were trying to hide it," states Karen Faye, Michael’s makeup artist for 20 years. "But he had to tell Operah." She admits that Michael had to use "complete full body makeup every inch of his body". Because vitiligo was taking over, they had to use the lighter tone of makeup.
Michael adds, "I was severely burned."
"The whole top of his head caught fire right in front of my eyes," confesses Faye. "Miko, Marlon Brando’s son managed to turn it (the fire on Michael’s head) off."
In Living With Michael Jackson Bashir did not mention anything about the skin graff surgeries that Michael had to get due to his burns.
"Are those your cheek bones?" -Bashir
"No," answers Michael, lifting his cheeks saying, "My dad," meaning he has cheeks like his dad. "Do you have any inserts?" -Bashir
"No," states Michael. "Can we just stop talking about all this plastic surgery garbage? You (Bashir) are beyond this. You’re getting tabloid."
As a reporter, I like to see the truth, and then have my take on it ... - Maury Povich
At the end of the interview, while shaking hands with Michael, a very revealing statement is made by Bashir about the interview in totality, a comment he did not include in his final edited interview:
"That was really really special ... When you say it like it really is, you just light up and that’s what it’s all about."
Written by invited guest reporter: N. Sierra-Díaz
--
Cortesía de "Foreverfan", del KOP Discussion, aún no sé la fuente original.
Bashirs will come and go, but Michael will live forever in our hearts. -Karen Faye
"The bigger the star, the bigger the target," is Michael’s response to all the untrue press he has received. Michael continues to mention some of the false news given about him in the past. When he mentions old rumours about "sleeping in a hyperbolic chamber", Bashir responds: "I’ve seen where you sleep, it’s not a hyperbolic chamber."
"What inspired you to make your home like this?" asks Bashir.
"It inspired me because I was {making my home} myself," responds Michael.
"What do you regret?" asks Bashir.
"When I was 12-years-old, I was under Motown contract. Right down the studio, there was a ballpark. ...I wanted to just have fun with the big kids," responds Michael.
"I was raised with adults," states Michael. "When kids were sleeping, we were doing clubs. The strip tease was after us."
When the scene when many children are entering Neverland, they called out, "Michael!" The looked happy and surprised to be seeing Michael Jackson.
"...I was here yesterday and I saw it, and it’s nothing short of a spiritually kind thing...," states Bashir in a conversation with Karen Faye. She complains about the negative statements the press/tabloids give about Michael Jackson. "It’s disgusting. That’s disgusting. Well, we aren’t doing that here." -Bashir
Faye states that no positive news is given about Michael.
Bashir replies in a very sympathetic voice, as if he were Michael’s truest friend: "I know, I know but I’ve told him. I know. They never talk about it, and I’ve said this to him, and what I wanted to convey is those two things. And what we’ve had the privilege of doing this week is not only talking about the musical genius, but about what we saw yesterday which was incredible. ...But when Michael’s talking, but when he’s talking about the things that he’s passionate about, it’s obvious that it’s, it’s in his eyes.... this is what’s in his heart"
"I feel totally at home with {children} because they don’t judge you," says Michael. He goes on to say that children are funny. Smiling, he recalls a time when a child sees Michael’s home and has the following conversation:
"Michael, you own all this?" asks the child.
"Yes," responds Michael.
"You paid all this?" -child
"Yes" - Michael
"And you still have money left over? I can’t believe it" -child
"Adults have let me down. Adults have let the world down." -Michael
Karen Faye also makes statements in this broadcast. She has been Michael’s makeup artist for 20 years. "It’s hard to imagine [Michael] opened the door not only to Neverland, but to his heart," states Faye. Her facial expressions indicative of lament for Michael getting hurt. "They cut questions out," remarks Faye, referring to tabloids and the press. "They twist everything. How could people be so cruel? That’s why he doesn’t do interviews that much."
About halfway into the broadcast, Maury Povich makes the following statement about people close to Michael who were interviewed: "No one interviewed for this show received money."
Bashir tells Michael that he asked Prince about his mom, and the latter replies that he does not have a mom. "What does it mean that he doesn’t have a mother?" Michael is asked by Bashir.
"She doesn’t, she can’t handle that," answers Michael. "I can’t reveal that," he continues, respecting his first two children’s mother Debbie Rowe’s privacy.
But, in today’s show, Rowe answers the following:
"My kids don’t call me mom because I don’t want them to. ...People don’t understand that they have this notion of Beaver Cleaver. It was reality in the 50’s, but not in the 21st century. ...I will always be there for him. I will always be there for my children. ... I didn’t leave my children. They’re with his father where they’re suppposed to be."
"People should be parents," Rowe tells us, "and he’s one of them."
I said you need to be a dad. ... Please let me do this" -Rowe speaks about what she told Michael she wanted to do for him: give him children. She would have never become a mother if it weren’t for Michael’s wanting to be a dad. "You don’t know what they can do" reports Rowe that Michael replied to her after she tells him that she wants to make him a dad.
"Did they? Or didn’t they?" -supposed questions asked by the public.
"You had sex with Debbie?" very doubtfully asks Bashir.
"Yes, yes," shyly answers Michael.
"We were very excited," admits Rowe referring to her pregnancy. "Michael was very excited when we had a contraction.
"I had a colourful language," continues Rowe about the time she was in labour. "He would cut me off with ‘shoot’ or ‘fudge’."
Rowe states that she knew Michael for 17-18 years when she had Prince, Michael’s first son.
"The look on his face," with tears on her face, Rowe remembers Michael the moment after she gives birth. "I’d never seen him that happy. That’s what made it wonderful for me was to see that look on his face."
"We’d go out and do stuff," Rowe states. "We had a good time. He’s a lot of fun." Michael and Debbie are shown riding a motorcycle: Debbie as herself and Michael disguised as a fat character of Ghosts.
Why did Michael and Rowe break up?
"I couldn’t go to the grocery store... I was used to it. Michael was more than generous. He would say that don’t have to go to the grocery store, but I wanted to. I like to do things for myself. That’s what I’m used to." -Rowe
"If he would call me right now and say ‘lets have 5 more’," says Rowe followed by a snap of the fingers, "in a heartbeat."
It’s hard when you’re an entertainer. I’m married to my fans. I’m married to my children. I’m married to God. I’m married to life. - Michael
Why did Bubbles have to go?
Bubbles are with a caretaker with many other monkeys. Bubbles were in a "teenage phase" when "they challenge you. ...They’re very strong. ...You could lose a finger," states Michael. He remembers when Bubbles used to be with him, "I would hug him or my deer. They don’t complain.... [Bubbles] would help me clean ... [he] would go himself, and he [would] pick up his spoon. He’s very polite."
About Michael’s children wearing masks and scarves: "I obviously have some influence," reveals Rowe. "I’m the one who’s terrified. I’m the one who’s seen the notes that they’re going to take [the] children. ...Pretend it’s Halloween. [What’s the big deal?] Are the scarves not matching? We’ll work on it."
Michael made statements about holding Blanket, his 3rd child, over a hotel window in Germany. "I was holding that baby so tight. ...I know better." He goes on saying that people say things about him like, "[He’s] an eccentric idiot dangling his baby over a balcony like a nut. ...I took my other children up there and did the same thing," reveals Michael as we the viewers see him lifting Prince and Paris on the German hotel room window. ...[The fans] wanted to see the little ones. ... I’m happy that I let the kids get waived at."
About Michael’s children wearing masks and scarves: "I obviously have some influence," reveals Rowe. "I’m the one who’s terrified. I’m the one who’s seen the notes that they’re going to take [the] children. ...Pretend it’s Halloween. [What’s the big deal?] Are the scarves not matching? We’ll work on it."
In the never-before-seen footage of the interview, Bashir states: "One of the things that I noticed about you over the years is your relationship with your children, and I have to say to you that I didn’t know you before, and you haven’t put on a front. And in fact, it, it almost makes me weep when I see you with them because your relationship with your children is spectacular," states Bashir in what sounds as admiration. "Your interaction with them is just so natural, so loving, so caring."
"I’m crazy about them," responds Michael. "I would die for them. I’m crazy about them."
Bashir says that when Michael tells his children that he loves them, Michael replies: "I love you more." "I’ve heard it once, I’ve heard it a million times," states Bashir.
Michael talks about his children: "They say the cutest things. ... ‘Daddy, thank you for giving me a brother’"
What could have persuaded Michael to have this interview? It was made to answer all the questions that have been developed throughout the years.
When Michael goes to the zoo with his children accompanied by Bashir, the latter states, "Our camera man fell over." In addition, he asks Michael if it was "worth the pain to go see the gorillas"? What was not shown in Living With Michael Jackson: "I didn’t know it was gonna be like that." Micheal "was informed that the zoo would be closed down, but they didn’t. They left the gates open. ... I don’t wanna go [to the zoo] in the day, especially with my problem with the sun, but we only had one slot."
"That thing was not a big deal," comments Michael’s photographer regarding all the paparazzi, etc. at the zoo while Michael was there with his family. "He goes through this all the time. ...I’m not here to defend my boss. I’m here to say the truth."
"You just don’t seem to enjoy your success," Bashir tells Michael.
"I enjoy it behind the gates," replies Michael. "If I do it in public, it’s work again."
"Are you lonely?" asks Bashir.
"I used to be very lonely.... I used to walk the streets looking for people to talk to," reveals Michael.
"When do you feel alone?" -Bashir
"Usually in hotels when there’s thousands of fans (out there) you feel trapped. If you go to a book store, they wonder why do you buy that book? You can’t go anywhere. ...I don’t want to complain, but it comes in the territory. It’s almost like you’re forced to be different. ...I would love to do that... shopping with carts. Everyone’s chanting or asking for autographs....-Michael
Micheal remembers dressing up in desguise: His facial expression shows lots of excitement while saying: "I sat on a bench at Disneyland watching people’s characters."
Joe Jackson, Michael’s father was interviewed for today’s broadcast. "He had his brothers to play with him. ...They all got whippins."
"We got disciplined the only way he knew. ...We never got into drugs. We never got in trouble." -Jermaine Jackson
"The way it was narrated, it was just not fair" - {Jermaien Jackson}
After Michael exposes his forgiveness of his father’s beating him, the following is not shown in Living With Micheal Jackson:
"He’s a genius. The man is a genius." -Michael
"But he injured you when you were a child." -Bashir
"But look what came out." -Michael
The 1993 allegations were brought up again: "He would never hurt a child," Rowe states. "It’s not him. He would never do anything inappropriate with a child."
Footage of Gavin when he used to be in a wheelchair with almost no hair on his head due to chemotherapy. Gavin was given "2 weeks to live" but now he’s much alive. Unfortunately, Gavin and his mom are in seclusion because of all the comments and propositions for interviews they have received after the airing of Living With Michael Jackson. Furthermore, Gavin’s mother made a statement including the fact that Bashir did not obtain parental consent to include her son in the interview.
About surgeries, Michael states that "most celebrities" and "most movie starts" do it. But, he also mentions that people saying that he’s "overly obsessed with it" are not saying the truth. "I didn’t have my cheeks done. I didn’t have my chin done."
"[People have said] I was putting on cream to become white. It’s not true. I have vitiligo." -Michael
"We were trying to hide it," states Karen Faye, Michael’s makeup artist for 20 years. "But he had to tell Operah." She admits that Michael had to use "complete full body makeup every inch of his body". Because vitiligo was taking over, they had to use the lighter tone of makeup.
Michael adds, "I was severely burned."
"The whole top of his head caught fire right in front of my eyes," confesses Faye. "Miko, Marlon Brando’s son managed to turn it (the fire on Michael’s head) off."
In Living With Michael Jackson Bashir did not mention anything about the skin graff surgeries that Michael had to get due to his burns.
"Are those your cheek bones?" -Bashir
"No," answers Michael, lifting his cheeks saying, "My dad," meaning he has cheeks like his dad. "Do you have any inserts?" -Bashir
"No," states Michael. "Can we just stop talking about all this plastic surgery garbage? You (Bashir) are beyond this. You’re getting tabloid."
As a reporter, I like to see the truth, and then have my take on it ... - Maury Povich
At the end of the interview, while shaking hands with Michael, a very revealing statement is made by Bashir about the interview in totality, a comment he did not include in his final edited interview:
"That was really really special ... When you say it like it really is, you just light up and that’s what it’s all about."
Written by invited guest reporter: N. Sierra-Díaz
--
Cortesía de "Foreverfan", del KOP Discussion, aún no sé la fuente original.
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