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Audiencia 16 Agosto: Tom Sneddon en el estrado - Acude MJ y su familia *TODO AQUÍ*

Simplemente lo mejor que he visto en mucho tiempo. MJ está estupendo en todos los sentidos. Los fans, los mejores. Y vosotros, todos lo que habeis estado posteando en directo, poniendo fotos, los links, los recortes de prensa...todo; sois increibles, el "Invincible Team". Sinceramente GRACIAS a todos. No hay fans como los de MJ. Apabullante post.

Go Michael!!! Esto está ganado. :*)
 
En Telemadrid por lo visto la :rolleyes: de Marta Robles también le ha puesto bien, pero no esperaba menos de una arpía como esa.


Mejor, como ha dicho MJForever, no hacer ni puñetero caso, y la gente que se crea lo que quiera.
 
TVE No ha dado ninguna imformacion en Telediarios ni en Teletexto, sin embargo publicitaron bien hace unas semanas lo de 'las nuevas acusaciones' de que Neverland fue construido para bla bla bla... Antena3 lo dio solo anoche y con prisas y mal, y Telecinco igual ... Pero a mi lo que mas me ha indignado es lo de Corazon de... han dicho: ... Ya a convencido a sus fans de que es inocente, ahora tendra que demostrarlo (si no me equivoco, lo que habria que demostrar es su culpabilidad, la inocencia se presupone) y para acabar dice: Tendra que demostrar su inocencia al resto del mundo, o del planeta... Osea, esto que es ¿? ¿El juicio final o algo asi? :|
 
Ya, es la historia de siempre. La mayoría de los periodistas están desinformados o se dejan llevar por lo que vende o sus manías y gustos pesonales. Son una pandilla de cretinos, mucho universitario y tan pocas neuronas, qué lástima. Así está el mundo. Ánimo, todos estos se van a tener que comer sus palabras.
 
El artículo de Friedman:

MJ DA Might Get the Boot
Tuesday, August 17, 2004
By Roger Friedman

http://www.foxnews.com/fox411

MJ DA Could Be Tossed from Case

Rumors swirled that District Attorney Tom Sneddon, arch enemy of Michael Jackson and the one trying to convict MJ of child molestation, will be asked to step down from the case Tuesday after his very public showdown with the defense attorney and judge in a Santa Maria court.

Sneddon was snarling at Jackson lawyer Thomas Mesereau Jr. on the stand Monday in the hearing about his investigation tactics and looked like a man on a witch hunt, according to many who witnessed the legal duel.

But it was the stern scolding by Judge Rodney Melville about Sneddon's combative answers that sparked speculation among case insiders he might be replaced by someone with less of a vendetta.

The sources, who were in the courtroom Monday, say it's highly unusual for a judge to publicly rebuke a district attorney that way.

No matter how the testimony goes, Jackson has bigger problems when it's over.


Last week, sources said, his brother Randy, now in charge of Jackson's daily operations, abruptly canceled ongoing payments to former employees of Michael who have concrete, signed deals with the pop star.

The result may be lawsuits. Already, I am told, former manager Dieter Wiesner is "very angry" and speaking to his attorneys. Wiesner, who still runs Jackson's licensing deals in Germany, was receiving $25,000 a month per an agreement reached in the last few months. But last week, sources said, Randy Jackson cut off the payments without explanation.

Also cut off were installment payments to Marc Schaffel, a Jackson loyalist. Jackson owes Schaffel money for his video work on the "rebuttal" films made for Fox Television in the winter of 2003, and for work on the video "What More Can I Give." Schaffel and Wiesner both believe that Michael Jackson has no idea that their payments have stopped.

Both Wiesner and Schaffel could be defense witnesses for Jackson in his child molestation and conspiracy case. They are each unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators in the case.

As I reported last week, Jackson is house hunting in Miami but doesn't have the money for a down payment on the sort of mansion he would desire. According to his agreements with Bank of America — where he has loans of $350 million — Jackson is precluded from borrowing any more money. Speculation is that he or Randy may be cutting back on making his agreed upon payments, either because he's running low on cash or trying to put enough together to have the down payment for a new home.

Schaffel and Wiesner did not return calls. I'm told that after court today, Jackson attorney Steve Cochran will try to speak with Michael about the missed payments and warn him that legal action could be forthcoming. Believe it or not, my sources say Jackson allows little time for his lawyers to actually speak to him on any subject.

Meantime, Jackson continues to rack up huge bills — often not paid for months or more — at hotels such as the posh Beverly Hills Hotel, L'Ermitage, and the Four Seasons, rather than return to his sprawling Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara.

The price tag on continuing to live in a kind of financial denial is between $4,000 and $5,000 a month.
 
:eek: Estas fotos estan mas que perfectas.......

Muchas gracias por las fotos!!! :D Aqui estuve pendiente y lo vi por CNN en Español Jejeje

saludos desde la cuidad de Mexico :ayos:
 
Esto lo han posteado hoy en el MJJForum:

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM INSIDE THE COURT FROM AUGUST 16:

At the end of court yesterday, The judge cleared through the safe harbor, and the prosecution did not object,

Michael Jackson will be making a statement of some kind, most likely he will do it himself personally and it will also be put up on MJJSOURCE.

No mention of what the statement was about, just that the judge added,"If i would have know that Mr. Jackson was leaving at the afternoon break, I would have approved this sooner, so that he could have done it today!
 
(Perdón si esto ya ha sido puesto)


Jackson team goes on offense

Attorney Thomas Mesereau spars with District Attorney Tom Sneddon

8/17/04
By DAWN HOBBS and SCOTT HADLY

NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITERS

Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon said he knew in July that he had made a mistake in the Michael Jackson case and that he'd have to testify in court to try to fix it.

That day came Monday when he took the stand in a packed Santa Maria courtroom and was questioned methodically by lead defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau, who was trying to prove that an illegal raid had been conducted in the child molestation case against his client.

The search of a private investigator's office would have been illegal had Mr. Sneddon known, or had reason to know, that the investigator worked for Mr. Jackson's attorney. The issue is crucial, since all computers, audiotapes and videotapes seized by authorities there would be barred from the singer's trial if the raid were not legal.

The prosecutor conceded Monday that last month he mistakenly told the defense he knew investigator Bradley Miller was working for attorney Mark Geragos.

Mr. Sneddon said he was upset that he and his legal team had failed to meet a court deadline and was exhausted when he made the error. "It was a mistake borne of being upset and angry over the failure that I let a lot of people down," Mr. Sneddon said, referring to the judge, the alleged victim and his family.

Mr. Sneddon's concession capped his four hours of testimony, given under the watchful eye of Mr. Jackson. In an odd twist in this case, the veteran prosecutor was grilled while the accused sat back and watched. But if Mr. Jackson, who once wrote a caustic song about the district attorney, enjoyed the irony he kept it to himself.

It was the first time Mr. Jackson has appeared in court since he pleaded not guilty April 30 to child molestation and conspiracy charges. He didn't have to show up Monday, but chose to anyway.

Dressed in a pristine white three-piece suit with a gold armband, diamond neck brooch and lapel pin, the pop star sat alert, attentively focused on the district attorney's testimony. His family and fans were less guarded about their emotions, however. Also dressed all in white, his sisters, La Toya and Janet, and his brothers, Jermaine, Jackie and Randy, sometimes exchanged smiles when Mr. Mesereau appeared to score a point. At one point, Mr. Jackson's fans even giggled at one of Mr. Sneddon's tortured explanations.

But Mr. Sneddon didn't give an inch. He stuck to his story despite Mr. Mesereau's insistence that the prosecutor should have known he was violating attorney-client privilege when he helped get a search warrant to raid the private investigator's office in November 2003.

Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville will have to decide after listening to what is expected to be a week's worth of testimony from a collection of witnesses.

"The question is did he know, or should he have known that Bradley Miller was working with the defense," Laurie Levenson, professor at Loyola University School of Law, said outside the courthouse.

"It's a problem for Sneddon that he appeared evasive or clueless," Ms. Levenson said. "I think Mesereau was quite good at chipping away at Sneddon to the point that he looked a little foolish."


She didn't think Mr. Mesereau made the case that Mr. Sneddon knew about the working relationship between Mr. Miller and Mr. Geragos at the time he was preparing a more than 80-page affidavit in support of the search. But, Ms. Levenson said, Mr. Mesereau showed that the district attorney should have known.

It was a day of testy exchanges between the veteran prosecutor and the high-powered criminal defense lawyer, both of whom, appropriately enough, boxed as college students. From the witness stand, Mr. Sneddon frequently attempted to correct Mr. Mesereau's characterization of events.

"I'm asking whether your office knew, or had reason to know that Brad Miller worked for Geragos when you broke into his office," Mr. Mesereau prodded.

"I wouldn't characterize it as a break-in," Mr. Sneddon snapped.

At one point, Judge Melville broke in: "Mr. Sneddon, I'm asking you not to spar with the attorney. I want it to stop right now before it starts."


The judge also reviewed the rules of testimony with Mr. Sneddon, instructing him to act like an attorney, but answer questions like a witness.

"It's unusual when you have an attorney testifying," Judge Melville said. "You have simple rules when you're a witness. You have to vacate your role as an advocate."


Mr. Mesereau questioned whether his opponent crossed the line from prosecutor to investigator when he went to Los Angeles, located Mr. Miller's office, took photographs of it and then showed a lineup of photos to the accuser's mother, including a driver's license picture of Mr. Miller.

"I wasn't investigating him," insisted Mr. Sneddon, who indicated he was already in Los Angeles with his wife to visit the Getty Museum and wanted to save time for Sheriff's detectives.

"So you were just out having a good time?" Mr. Mesereau quipped, prompting giggles from Mr. Jackson's fans in the courtroom and a broad smile from the singer's brother Jermaine.

Mr. Mesereau worked his way through a series of letters that detectives received from the accuser's mother in July 2003 and that Mr. Sneddon had reviewed before the November search. The exchanges between the family's attorney and Mr. Geragos involved requests for the return of the alleged victim's belongings that were being held in a storage locker by Mr. Miller. Mr. Mesereau said that, at the very least, the correspondence should have prompted Mr. Sneddon to ask whether the private investigator was working for Mr. Geragos.

But during cross-examination, Mr. Sneddon turned it back on the defense, saying that to him the letters indicated Mr. Miller was not working for Mr. Geragos.

"We didn't know who had hired Mr. Miller," Mr. Sneddon said. "In fact, our working assumption was 180 degrees the other way."

He said he thought Mr. Miller was instead working for one of the other men the prosecution has linked to the case, but has not charged.

Mr. Sneddon said nowhere in the letters does Mr. Geragos say that Mr. Miller worked for him, and Mr. Geragos did not appear to know where the family's belongings were located.

Most importantly, though, Mr. Sneddon said Mr. Miller was allegedly involved with a range of crimes, including threats, stalking, possession of stolen property and extortion. The prosecutor couldn't believe that Mr. Geragos would be part of those activities: "I was not prepared to believe a lawyer was involved in conduct that would be career-ending."

http://news.newspress.com/toplocal/081704jackson.htm
 
Qué será lo que Sneddon consiguió en la oficina de Miller? Debe ser algo claramente inculpatorio para Michael si piden que no se utilice...
 
Mj_2070 dijo:
Qué será lo que Sneddon consiguió en la oficina de Miller? Debe ser algo claramente inculpatorio para Michael si piden que no se utilice...
No tiene porque... simplemente fue un registro ilegal, y si fue ilegal no puede servir como evidencia para un juicio legal
 
hoy y toda la semana tienen previsto seguir con esto no??????????, ya se iran poniendo cosas, esto parece ke va por buen camino:D , y sobre la prensa ke asco:mad: :mad: :mad:kieren lapidar a michael como sea:mad: me pongo enfermo voy a pasar hasta el culo, dicen lo k les interesa y totalmente desinformados como siempre..:mad:

saludossss
 
Jackson family puts on show outside courthouse


8/17/04
By SCOTT STEEPLETON

NEWS-PRESS ASSISTANT METRO EDITOR

Michael Jackson might not crank out hits like he once did, but the self-proclaimed King of Pop proved Monday he still knows how to make an entrance.

Pulling up to the Royce R. Lewellen Justice Center in a bus that clearly was too big for the occasion, Mr. Jackson, 45, with family in tow, was an instant hit with the 100 or so fans who pushed up against a chain-link fence for a view of their beloved singer.

After a 10-minute wait inside the rig, which from the outside looked like it would make any touring musician proud, he descended the stairs and made his way toward his first face-off with District Attorney Tom Sneddon. The hearing's outcome could have a huge impact on the case.

The white outfits worn by Mr. Jackson and his sibling entourage -- sisters Janet and La Toya and brothers Randy and Jermaine -- were clearly intended to send a message of innocence, a contrast to earlier hearings, where red and black were the singer's colors of choice.

Among the most vocal in the early-morning crowd was Najee Ali, co-founder of Los Angeles-based Project Islamic Hope. Mr. Ali is seeking to have the district attorney removed from the case for saying he didn't know a private investigator whose office was raided was apparently working for the singer's former defense lawyer.

"He's a liar," Mr. Ali called out to the delight of the crowd. "Tom Sneddon is a liar." :bravo:


To drive his point home, Mr. Ali, who came from the Los Angeles area with a busload of about 55 people, held above his head a picture of Mr. Sneddon complete with devil horns.

"This is not the people of California against Michael Jackson; it's Tom Sneddon against Michael Jackson," he said.

The Jackson bus was so big that it remained in place in the courthouse parking lot all day, but the crowd that came out to see Mr. Jackson was much smaller than for his previous court appearances. The size didn't diminish the enthusiasm. Fans held signs proclaiming unwavering support for the singer, their belief that he is "1000% innocent" and that Mr. Sneddon is the one who should be punished.

A Santa Maria woman was arrested after allegedly abandoning her 2-year-old granddaughter for a time after the Jackson bus arrived. :eek:

Police say Henrietta Dominguez, 55, then handed the girl to a stranger after an officer approached her on the earlier incident. She was booked into County Jail on suspicion of child endangerment and delaying and obstructing the investigation.

The child ultimately was reunited with her grandfather.

Mary Davison, 48, was among the people selected by lottery to sit in the courtroom for the hearing. The Nipomo resident warned not to read too much about her desire to be on the inside from her pro-Jackson T-shirt.

"You just can't really tell what's going on in there unless you see it," she said.

Jennifer Fitzgerald also won the lottery -- and, during a break after the district attorney took a grilling on the witness stand from defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau Jr., she said, "He's contradicted himself many times."


"Tom Sneddon is a total joke as a DA," said Ms. Fitzgerald, 30, of Dallas, Texas.

Not everyone who made it inside was hoping to see the prosecutor flame out.

"I'm not a fan, and I don't support Michael Jackson, and I can guarantee you I'm the only one in there who doesn't," said Dana Tockey of Santa Barbara. :mad:

The 23-year-old had a day off, took her chances and came out a winner in the lottery, but her primary goal was simply to see firsthand how the justice system works. (y encima con suerte)

"And I'm here to support the victims, too," she said. (entonces tambien apoya a Michael :p )

Before going in to the courtroom, Ms. Tockey briefly stood with two women who waved signs in support of victims' rights.

The morning court session began at 10 and lasted about 2 1/2 hours. During the lunch break, Mr. Jackson and his family returned to the bus, but not before the singer and his sisters walked up to the fence to give fans something to talk about.

Then it was back on the bus for an hour or so.

"They're having some very important family time," said Debra Opri, lawyer for the Jackson parents. The menu, she added, included sandwiches, but she did not know what kind.

Ms. Opri said the family was dealing with "security issues" that just came up, but she wouldn't elaborate. Authorities also did not say what those issues could be, but throughout the day, at least two plainclothes law enforcement officers mingled with the crowd.

Meanwhile, courtroom sketch artist Bill Robles was busy satisfying camera operators hungry for shots of his work.

Taping several sketches on the back of news vans, Mr. Robles -- who has been sketching high-profile cases since the Charles Manson trial more than 30 years ago -- worked hard to make sure only those who pay for his services capture his images on tape.

To make his pictures pop, Mr. Robles said he's looking for composition and character -- and in this case, there's no shortage of the latter.

"Tom Mesereau is great because he's got the great hair," Mr. Robles said. "He's an easy guy to do."
http://news.newspress.com/topsports/081704outside.htm
 
Mj_2070 dijo:
Qué será lo que Sneddon consiguió en la oficina de Miller? Debe ser algo claramente inculpatorio para Michael si piden que no se utilice...
Sí, lo malo es que da a entender que sea algo así, cuando simplemente los abogados de Michael quieren demostrar la forma ilegal de hacer las cosas de Sneeddon....la prensa se basará en esto para criticar a Michael si sale inocente.:miedo:
 
Speechcrepes dijo:
Sí, lo malo es que da a entender que sea algo así, cuando simplemente los abogados de Michael quieren demostrar la forma ilegal de hacer las cosas de Sneeddon....la prensa se basará en esto para criticar a Michael si sale inocente.:miedo:

Exacto, quizas por ello Michael no debio de ir a la audiencia de ayer porque la prensa se esta haciendo demasiado eco de todo esto, cuando lo importane es que DS comente irregularidades y se lo pasa todo por los forros. :(
 
Exacto, quizas por ello Michael no debio de ir a la audiencia de ayer porque la prensa se esta haciendo demasiado eco de todo esto, cuando lo importane es que DS comente irregularidades y se lo pasa todo por los forros.
Tal vez, pero también el hecho de que MJ se presentará ahí demuestra que está al pendiente del caso y esto también hizo que muchos medios hicieran más cobertura de la audiencia de ayer, muchos tal vez han minimizado lo que ocurrió ayer con Sneddon, pero algunos otros si han publicado por lo menos algo. Te aseguro que sin la presencia de MJ ayer muchos medios hubieran pasado de la noticia y no se hubiera reportado casi nada o nada.
 
Alita dijo:
Te aseguro que sin la presencia de MJ ayer muchos medios hubieran pasado de la noticia y no se hubiera reportado casi nada o nada.

Pero Alita ahi esta la cuestion, si michael no va a la audiencia de ayer la prensa no se hace tanto eco de las evidencias requisadas por el DS, es que nos estan vendiendo la pelicula de que hay pruebas y se va a librar por el registro ilegal.
 
Yo creo que haga lo que haga Michael (y sus abogados, claro) la prensa seguirá presentándole como culpable. Siempre se le puede dar la vuelta a cualquier hecho.
 
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