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AQUI está y es LA BOMBA. Me tengo que ir y no puedo traducir, pero basicamente Jay ha admitido lo que puede ser argumentado por la defensa como el movil de todo estas acusaciones estúpidas:
Jackson Accuser Kin Wanted Compensation
By LINDA DEUTSCH
AP Special Correspondent
SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) -- The stepfather of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation testified Thursday that he asked for payment from Jackson for the family's participation in a video interview intended to restore Jackson's reputation.
"I said 'this family has nothing and you're making millions from this and what are you doing to do for this little family,'" the witness said of a conversation he had with someone he identified only as the "gentleman from Neverland," a reference to Jackson's ranch.
The man was identified in court as Mr. Doe to keep his identity secret. He said he had been an officer in the Army reserve for 22 years and had married the mother of the accuser last May. He said she recently gave birth to a child.
The witness testified that he also asked for compensation at some point from a British journalist who came to the family's home to try to interview them after a documentary on Jackson aired on British television.
"Two British journalists showed up and I talked to them," the witness said. "The said they wanted to do an interview with (his wife) and the children. I said, 'what are you offering?' They said, 'what do you want?' And I said I didn't know."
He said the journalists left and said they would return with an offer.
"Did you complain to anyone that Mrs. Doe was not receiving proper payment?" asked defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.
"It was a conversation with a person form Neverland," the witness said. "He said, 'we are going to do a rebuttal video and we need them to come and sign a contract.'"
The witness said he asked the man what was being offered in return.
"He said, 'we are going to give them a college education and buy them a house,'" the witness testified.
In wide-ranging questioning, Mesereau questioned Mr. Doe about the man's belief that the mother and family were being held under duress at Neverland.
The man testified that he called the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department in April 2003 after the woman and her children had gone to the ranch.
"I felt (my wife) and the family might be under duress," the witness testified.
But after calling authorities, he said, the family returned and he told deputies everything was fine.
After that incident, he said, his wife returned to Neverland.
"She somehow or another got back there," the witness said.
Defense attorneys were expected to ask the man what he knew about the relationship between Jackson's former lawyer and a private investigator.
The issue is whether anyone told prosecutors and sheriff's deputies that investigator Bradley Miller was working for attorney Mark Geragos before the authorities decided to break into Miller's office and seize evidence for the Jackson case.
Mr. Doe is said to have been present when Miller supervised the making of a videotaped interview with the 12-year-old and his family. The so-called "rebuttal video" was intended to answer negative publicity surrounding a British TV special on Jackson's life that featured the pop star defending his practice of having young boys sleep in his bed.
In the rebuttal video, the boy and his family reportedly vouch for Jackson's good character and praise his relationship with youngsters.
Prosecutors are claiming the family was coerced into making the video as part of a conspiracy charged in the indictment against Jackson.
The tape is among items seized from Miller's office when sheriff's deputies broke in with a sledgehammer. The defense contends that if authorities knew Miller was working with Geragos, the search violated attorney-client privilege of confidentiality.
In other testimony Thursday, an attorney who once represented the accuser's family acknowledged he exchanged numerous letters and phone calls with Geragos and Miller but never asked or was told that the investigator was working for Geragos.
William Dickerman acknowledged he was aware of the existence of tape recordings made by Miller and was concerned about whether consent had been given by his clients to use the tapes for the purpose of television exploitation.
Meanwhile, Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville agreed to let Jackson file a request to make a public statement of unspecified content, according to papers posted on the court's Web site Wednesday. Jackson's lawyers filed the request Aug. 13, with the proposed statement blacked out.
Also posted on the Web site Wednesday was Jackson's request to file an objection to the release of a sealed report by the California attorney general.
Sheriff Jim Anderson wants the report released. In it, state officials reportedly concluded that Jackson was not mistreated as he claimed when he surrendered to authorities last year. A copy of the leaked report was posted Sunday on the CBS News Web site.
In an interview broadcast by CBS's "60 Minutes" a month after his Nov. 20, 2003, arrest, Jackson said he was "manhandled" by Santa Barbara County sheriff's deputies who took him into custody.
The report to Anderson from the California Bureau of Investigation said there was no evidence to support Jackson's claim that his shoulder was dislocated when he was handcuffed. It also found that there was no criminal misconduct by sheriff's personnel.
Jackson, 45, is charged with committing a lewd act upon a child, administering an intoxicating agent and conspiring to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. He has pleaded not guilty and is free on $3 million bail.
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Jackson Accuser Kin Wanted Compensation
By LINDA DEUTSCH
AP Special Correspondent
SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) -- The stepfather of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation testified Thursday that he asked for payment from Jackson for the family's participation in a video interview intended to restore Jackson's reputation.
"I said 'this family has nothing and you're making millions from this and what are you doing to do for this little family,'" the witness said of a conversation he had with someone he identified only as the "gentleman from Neverland," a reference to Jackson's ranch.
The man was identified in court as Mr. Doe to keep his identity secret. He said he had been an officer in the Army reserve for 22 years and had married the mother of the accuser last May. He said she recently gave birth to a child.
The witness testified that he also asked for compensation at some point from a British journalist who came to the family's home to try to interview them after a documentary on Jackson aired on British television.
"Two British journalists showed up and I talked to them," the witness said. "The said they wanted to do an interview with (his wife) and the children. I said, 'what are you offering?' They said, 'what do you want?' And I said I didn't know."
He said the journalists left and said they would return with an offer.
"Did you complain to anyone that Mrs. Doe was not receiving proper payment?" asked defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.
"It was a conversation with a person form Neverland," the witness said. "He said, 'we are going to do a rebuttal video and we need them to come and sign a contract.'"
The witness said he asked the man what was being offered in return.
"He said, 'we are going to give them a college education and buy them a house,'" the witness testified.
In wide-ranging questioning, Mesereau questioned Mr. Doe about the man's belief that the mother and family were being held under duress at Neverland.
The man testified that he called the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department in April 2003 after the woman and her children had gone to the ranch.
"I felt (my wife) and the family might be under duress," the witness testified.
But after calling authorities, he said, the family returned and he told deputies everything was fine.
After that incident, he said, his wife returned to Neverland.
"She somehow or another got back there," the witness said.
Defense attorneys were expected to ask the man what he knew about the relationship between Jackson's former lawyer and a private investigator.
The issue is whether anyone told prosecutors and sheriff's deputies that investigator Bradley Miller was working for attorney Mark Geragos before the authorities decided to break into Miller's office and seize evidence for the Jackson case.
Mr. Doe is said to have been present when Miller supervised the making of a videotaped interview with the 12-year-old and his family. The so-called "rebuttal video" was intended to answer negative publicity surrounding a British TV special on Jackson's life that featured the pop star defending his practice of having young boys sleep in his bed.
In the rebuttal video, the boy and his family reportedly vouch for Jackson's good character and praise his relationship with youngsters.
Prosecutors are claiming the family was coerced into making the video as part of a conspiracy charged in the indictment against Jackson.
The tape is among items seized from Miller's office when sheriff's deputies broke in with a sledgehammer. The defense contends that if authorities knew Miller was working with Geragos, the search violated attorney-client privilege of confidentiality.
In other testimony Thursday, an attorney who once represented the accuser's family acknowledged he exchanged numerous letters and phone calls with Geragos and Miller but never asked or was told that the investigator was working for Geragos.
William Dickerman acknowledged he was aware of the existence of tape recordings made by Miller and was concerned about whether consent had been given by his clients to use the tapes for the purpose of television exploitation.
Meanwhile, Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville agreed to let Jackson file a request to make a public statement of unspecified content, according to papers posted on the court's Web site Wednesday. Jackson's lawyers filed the request Aug. 13, with the proposed statement blacked out.
Also posted on the Web site Wednesday was Jackson's request to file an objection to the release of a sealed report by the California attorney general.
Sheriff Jim Anderson wants the report released. In it, state officials reportedly concluded that Jackson was not mistreated as he claimed when he surrendered to authorities last year. A copy of the leaked report was posted Sunday on the CBS News Web site.
In an interview broadcast by CBS's "60 Minutes" a month after his Nov. 20, 2003, arrest, Jackson said he was "manhandled" by Santa Barbara County sheriff's deputies who took him into custody.
The report to Anderson from the California Bureau of Investigation said there was no evidence to support Jackson's claim that his shoulder was dislocated when he was handcuffed. It also found that there was no criminal misconduct by sheriff's personnel.
Jackson, 45, is charged with committing a lewd act upon a child, administering an intoxicating agent and conspiring to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. He has pleaded not guilty and is free on $3 million bail.
www.ap.org
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040819/ap_en_mu/michael_jackson&e=1&ncid=
Jackson Accuser Kin Wanted Compensation
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent
SANTA MARIA, Calif. - The stepfather of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation testified Thursday that he asked for payment from Jackson for the family's participation in a video interview intended to restore Jackson's reputation.
(Jay Jackson, el padrastro pidió dinero a Michael por la participación de la familia en un intento de limpiar la imagen del cantante)
"I said 'this family has nothing and you're making millions from this and what are you doing to do for this little family,'" the witness said of a conversation he had with someone he identified only as the "gentleman from Neverland," a reference to Jackson's ranch.
("le dije: esta familia no tiene nada y estas haciendo millones de esto, pero que vas a hacer por esta pequeña familia?")
The witness testified that he also asked for compensation at some point from a British journalist who came to the family's home to try to interview them after a documentary on Jackson aired on British television.
(el testigo tambien dijo que pidio una compensacion de un periodista britanico que fue a la casa de la familia a intentar entrevistarlos despues de un documental sobre Jackson emitido en la televisión britanica)
"Two British journalists showed up and I talked to them," the witness said. "The said they wanted to do an interview with (his wife) and the children. I said, 'what are you offering?' They said, 'what do you want?' And I said I didn't know."
("los dos periodistas britanicos se presentaron y hable con ellos" dijo el testigo "dijeron que querian hacernos una entrevista, y les dije, a que se refieren? ellos dijeron que quieres? yo les dije que no lo sabia")
He said the journalists left and said they would return with an offer.
(el testigo dijo que los periodistas se fueron y que volverian con una oferta)
"Did you complain to anyone that Mrs. Doe was not receiving proper payment?" asked defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.
("Se quejó a alguien de que la sra. Doe no recibia un pago propio? pregunto Mez)
"It was a conversation with a person form Neverland," the witness said. "He said, 'we are going to do a rebuttal video and we need them to come and sign a contract.'"
(Fue una conversacion con una persona de neverland, dijo el testigo, el dijo, vamos a hacer un video -rebbutal- y necesitamos que vengan y firmen un contrato)
sigo traduciendo...
Jackson Accuser Kin Wanted Compensation
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent
SANTA MARIA, Calif. - The stepfather of the boy who accused Michael Jackson of molestation testified Thursday that he asked for payment from Jackson for the family's participation in a video interview intended to restore Jackson's reputation.
(Jay Jackson, el padrastro pidió dinero a Michael por la participación de la familia en un intento de limpiar la imagen del cantante)
"I said 'this family has nothing and you're making millions from this and what are you doing to do for this little family,'" the witness said of a conversation he had with someone he identified only as the "gentleman from Neverland," a reference to Jackson's ranch.
("le dije: esta familia no tiene nada y estas haciendo millones de esto, pero que vas a hacer por esta pequeña familia?")
The witness testified that he also asked for compensation at some point from a British journalist who came to the family's home to try to interview them after a documentary on Jackson aired on British television.
(el testigo tambien dijo que pidio una compensacion de un periodista britanico que fue a la casa de la familia a intentar entrevistarlos despues de un documental sobre Jackson emitido en la televisión britanica)
"Two British journalists showed up and I talked to them," the witness said. "The said they wanted to do an interview with (his wife) and the children. I said, 'what are you offering?' They said, 'what do you want?' And I said I didn't know."
("los dos periodistas britanicos se presentaron y hable con ellos" dijo el testigo "dijeron que querian hacernos una entrevista, y les dije, a que se refieren? ellos dijeron que quieres? yo les dije que no lo sabia")
He said the journalists left and said they would return with an offer.
(el testigo dijo que los periodistas se fueron y que volverian con una oferta)
"Did you complain to anyone that Mrs. Doe was not receiving proper payment?" asked defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.
("Se quejó a alguien de que la sra. Doe no recibia un pago propio? pregunto Mez)
"It was a conversation with a person form Neverland," the witness said. "He said, 'we are going to do a rebuttal video and we need them to come and sign a contract.'"
(Fue una conversacion con una persona de neverland, dijo el testigo, el dijo, vamos a hacer un video -rebbutal- y necesitamos que vengan y firmen un contrato)
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The witness said he asked the man what was being offered in return.
(el testigo le pregunto al hombre que cuanto ofrecia a cambio)
"He said, 'we are going to give them a college education and buy them a house,'" the witness testified.
("el dijo vamos a darles buena educacion y a comprarles una casa" testifico el testigo)
In wide-ranging questioning, Mesereau questioned Mr. Doe about the man's belief that the mother and family were being held under duress at Neverland.
En preguntas generales, Mez pregunto a JJ sobre si creia ke la madre y la familia estuvieran retenidos bajo su voluntad en Neverland...
The man testified that he called the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department in April 2003 after the woman and her children had gone to the ranch.
(El hombre testifico que llamo al departamento del sheriff de Santa Barbara en abril del 2003 despues de que la mujer y los niños se habian ido al rancho)
sigo...
(el testigo le pregunto al hombre que cuanto ofrecia a cambio)
"He said, 'we are going to give them a college education and buy them a house,'" the witness testified.
("el dijo vamos a darles buena educacion y a comprarles una casa" testifico el testigo)
In wide-ranging questioning, Mesereau questioned Mr. Doe about the man's belief that the mother and family were being held under duress at Neverland.
En preguntas generales, Mez pregunto a JJ sobre si creia ke la madre y la familia estuvieran retenidos bajo su voluntad en Neverland...
The man testified that he called the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department in April 2003 after the woman and her children had gone to the ranch.
(El hombre testifico que llamo al departamento del sheriff de Santa Barbara en abril del 2003 despues de que la mujer y los niños se habian ido al rancho)
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Reporte de una chica que esta en la corte:
Jay Jackson habló con gente de MJ sobre su participación en el take two, la gente de MJ accedió a pagar por educación escolar de los niños y una casa como compensación por participar en el Take two, el rechazó argumentando "ustedes están haciendo millones y nosotros sacamos cero"
La madre tenía que saber que Miller era contratado por Geragos por el audio en donde Miller se presenta con la madre, el audio fue hecho para que los niños hablaran de lo grandioso que era Michael despues de lo de Bashir, así que hay transcripción de ese audio. Jay Jacksone stuvo presente durante la grabación, pero dijo no haber puesto atención de lo que se decia.
El juez sacará unas investigaciones con respecto a lo del maltrato de la policia hacia MJ, y MJ podrá responder al respecto. Aparentemente Mesereau hizo un buen argumento sobre como ninguna otra persona ha sido investigada cuando mencionan maltrato.
En general la chica dice que ha sido un buen día para la defensa y no para la fiscalía
Jay Jackson habló con gente de MJ sobre su participación en el take two, la gente de MJ accedió a pagar por educación escolar de los niños y una casa como compensación por participar en el Take two, el rechazó argumentando "ustedes están haciendo millones y nosotros sacamos cero"
La madre tenía que saber que Miller era contratado por Geragos por el audio en donde Miller se presenta con la madre, el audio fue hecho para que los niños hablaran de lo grandioso que era Michael despues de lo de Bashir, así que hay transcripción de ese audio. Jay Jacksone stuvo presente durante la grabación, pero dijo no haber puesto atención de lo que se decia.
El juez sacará unas investigaciones con respecto a lo del maltrato de la policia hacia MJ, y MJ podrá responder al respecto. Aparentemente Mesereau hizo un buen argumento sobre como ninguna otra persona ha sido investigada cuando mencionan maltrato.
En general la chica dice que ha sido un buen día para la defensa y no para la fiscalía
"I felt (my wife) and the family might be under duress," the witness testified.
(senti que mi esposa y la familia podrian estar bajo presión, testifico el testigo)
But after calling authorities, he said, the family returned and he told deputies everything was fine.
(pero despues de llamar a las autoridades, dijo, la familia volvio y el dijo que todo estaba bien)
After that incident, he said, his wife returned to Neverland.
(despues del incidente, el dijo, su mujer volvio a neverland)
"She somehow or another got back there," the witness said.
(ella, de algun modo u otro, volvio, dijo el testigo)
Defense attorneys were expected to ask the man what he knew about the relationship between Jackson's former lawyer and a private investigator.
(los abogados defensores iban a preguntar al hombe si sabia sobre la relación entre Geragos y Miller)
(senti que mi esposa y la familia podrian estar bajo presión, testifico el testigo)
But after calling authorities, he said, the family returned and he told deputies everything was fine.
(pero despues de llamar a las autoridades, dijo, la familia volvio y el dijo que todo estaba bien)
After that incident, he said, his wife returned to Neverland.
(despues del incidente, el dijo, su mujer volvio a neverland)
"She somehow or another got back there," the witness said.
(ella, de algun modo u otro, volvio, dijo el testigo)
Defense attorneys were expected to ask the man what he knew about the relationship between Jackson's former lawyer and a private investigator.
(los abogados defensores iban a preguntar al hombe si sabia sobre la relación entre Geragos y Miller)
Traduzco lo interesante y nuevo:
El padrastro del chico ha testificado que pidió dinero a Jackson por la participación de la familia en el Take 2.
"Dije 'esta familia no tiene nada y tú estás ganando millones con esto y qué vas ha hacer por esta pequeña familia'" dijo el testigo de una conversación que tuvo con alguien al que identificó como "caballero de Neverland".
También dijo que pidió una compensación de Bashir porque fue a casa de la familia para intentar entrevistarles tras la emisión del el documental "living with MJ"
"Aparecieron dos periodistas británicos y hablé con ellos. Dijeron que querían hacer una entrevista con Janet y los niños. Les dije '¿qué me ofrecéis? Me dijeron, '¿Qué quieres?' y les dije que no lo sabía." Dijo que los periodistas se fueron y dijeron que volverían con una oferta.
Mesereau preguntó "¿Te quejaste a alguien de que el Sr. Doe no estaba recibiendo un pago justo?"
"Fue una conversación con una persona de Neverland. Dijo 'vamos a hacer un video de contraataque y necesitamos que firmen un contrato"
El testigo dijo que preguntó al hombre que le ofrecía a cambio.
"Dijo, 'vamos a darle una educación en un colegio y comprarles una casa" contó el testigo.
Mesereau preguntó al Sr. Doe si creía que la madre y la famila estaban contra su voluntad en Neverland.
El hombre dijo que llamó al Sheriff de Santa Barbara en abril de 2003 cuando la mujer y los niños ya se habían ido del rancho.
"Sentía que Janet y la familia podrían estar presionados" dijo el testigo.
Pero tras llamar a las autoridades, dijo, la familia volvió y dijo a los agentes que todo estaba bien.
Tras el incidente, dijo, su mujer volvió a Neverland. x 1000
"Ella, de una forma u otra volvió allí" dijo el testigo.
Sobre el tema de Miller, el Sr. Doe dijo que había estado presente cuando Miller supervisó la grabación de una cinta de video con el chico y su familia.
William Dickerman reconoció que sabía de la existencia de la cintas grabadas por Miller y estaba preocupado por si las cintas se emitían en televisión y sus clientes no habían dado su consentimiento.
[www.ap.org]
Creo que alguien debería decirle a este borrego del Sr. Doe (Jay Jackson) que se decida sobre de qué lado está, porque con estas declaraciones se ha cubierto de gloria :lol: Mesereau debía estar flipando :borrachín
El padrastro del chico ha testificado que pidió dinero a Jackson por la participación de la familia en el Take 2.
"Dije 'esta familia no tiene nada y tú estás ganando millones con esto y qué vas ha hacer por esta pequeña familia'" dijo el testigo de una conversación que tuvo con alguien al que identificó como "caballero de Neverland".
También dijo que pidió una compensación de Bashir porque fue a casa de la familia para intentar entrevistarles tras la emisión del el documental "living with MJ"
"Aparecieron dos periodistas británicos y hablé con ellos. Dijeron que querían hacer una entrevista con Janet y los niños. Les dije '¿qué me ofrecéis? Me dijeron, '¿Qué quieres?' y les dije que no lo sabía." Dijo que los periodistas se fueron y dijeron que volverían con una oferta.
Mesereau preguntó "¿Te quejaste a alguien de que el Sr. Doe no estaba recibiendo un pago justo?"
"Fue una conversación con una persona de Neverland. Dijo 'vamos a hacer un video de contraataque y necesitamos que firmen un contrato"
El testigo dijo que preguntó al hombre que le ofrecía a cambio.
"Dijo, 'vamos a darle una educación en un colegio y comprarles una casa" contó el testigo.
Mesereau preguntó al Sr. Doe si creía que la madre y la famila estaban contra su voluntad en Neverland.
El hombre dijo que llamó al Sheriff de Santa Barbara en abril de 2003 cuando la mujer y los niños ya se habían ido del rancho.
"Sentía que Janet y la familia podrían estar presionados" dijo el testigo.
Pero tras llamar a las autoridades, dijo, la familia volvió y dijo a los agentes que todo estaba bien.
Tras el incidente, dijo, su mujer volvió a Neverland.
x 1000"Ella, de una forma u otra volvió allí" dijo el testigo.
Sobre el tema de Miller, el Sr. Doe dijo que había estado presente cuando Miller supervisó la grabación de una cinta de video con el chico y su familia.
William Dickerman reconoció que sabía de la existencia de la cintas grabadas por Miller y estaba preocupado por si las cintas se emitían en televisión y sus clientes no habían dado su consentimiento.
[www.ap.org]
Creo que alguien debería decirle a este borrego del Sr. Doe (Jay Jackson) que se decida sobre de qué lado está, porque con estas declaraciones se ha cubierto de gloria :lol: Mesereau debía estar flipando :borrachín
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Xtar y Mpen, eso mismo estaba pensando mientras leía el artículo, pareciera que Jay Jackson ha sido el testigo por parte de la defensa, ya que, creo que sin el quererlo, ha revelado las claras intenciones que tuvieron con Michael desde el principio y ayuda a la gente a ver con claridad de que se trata todo esto. Gracias Jay Jackson! :mez:
¿Pero esta gente están todos pirados o qué?
Creo que Sneddon le va a cantar las cuarenta a esta lumbrera de Jay Jackson... ay, perdón, Mr. Doe.
Creo que Sneddon le va a cantar las cuarenta a esta lumbrera de Jay Jackson... ay, perdón, Mr. Doe.
Seguro que la Sra.Arvizo despúes de todo esto le pedirá el divorció al Jay :lol:
Este es la lumbrera:
:jajaja: :jajaja: :jajaja: Vaya cara...:clo:
:jajaja: :jajaja: :jajaja: Vaya cara...:clo:
vaya jeto d jiñao q tiene jajaja
