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Con un valor de 160 millones de libras el CATÁLOGO DE MJ HA SIDO ROBADO
- Iniciador del tema Dulce y peligroso
- Fecha de inicio
Que gresca ni que gresca, si a ti te parece normal que hablando de unos temas musicales entre tanto se comente que esta en peligro la muerte de dos fans, en fin a mi esas cosas me suelen extrañar y por eso preguntaba pero vamos, que no se ni para que me molesto debería suponer que se trataba de otra gilipollez más típica de los desequilibrados que proliferan por internet.
Gracias a esta noticia de los hackers, en YT ya están lloviendo más tonterías como esta:
Michael Jackson Ft. Will.I.Am - You're Mine (Snippet) NEW SONG 2012 - YouTube
Michael Jackson Ft. Will.I.Am - You're Mine (Snippet) NEW SONG 2012 - YouTube
Tomboy
HideOuter Badder 😏
Gracias a Kapital y a Rockin' Robin por la info 
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Y este snippet 1981mjdave ?? Cuando se ha filtrado ? Ya de paso, qué os parece a todos ? (Aunque el tema vaya de otra cosa, ya que ha tenido la bondad de ponerlo, podemos opinar )
Un abrazo a to2
.Y este snippet 1981mjdave ?? Cuando se ha filtrado ? Ya de paso, qué os parece a todos ? (Aunque el tema vaya de otra cosa, ya que ha tenido la bondad de ponerlo, podemos opinar
)Un abrazo a to2
M
Miembro dado de baja 19884
Guest
Penosamente falso (si te deja mas tranquila y evitamos el debate de algo que NO TIENE QUE VER CON MJ)
Última edición por un moderador:
¿Algunos no tienen ni p*** idea de lo que leen?
O, Gales,
¿estas diciendo que en ese YT video es Michael quién canta?
¿Haciendo amigos?
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cappie parece danyjackson, si, pero si te fijas creo que quiso hacer una canción! (por los ooh-oh's)
Aransay, amigo, creo que más se daña el legado de mj con los fakes que con estas acciones de los fans.
aransay apoya la estafa de los fakes. Aunque el sabe que lo son.
yo pensé lo mismo. Esto me huele a estratagema para ver nuestra reacción, igual que el iphone que en pleno desarrollo se le olvidó a un desarrollador del mismo, o la psvita "olvidada" en un metro de new york, y que todo el mundo vió fotos pero a nadie se le ocurrió enseñarlas. Pues esto es lo mismo. En un par de meses tenemos nuevo disco de jason malachi.
Michael Jackson Justice: The True Story Behind the Cascio Tracks?
copia y pega---->
Are the Songs Stolen? I Didn't Think So
Nothing is Sacred Anymore
I don't know how real this battle is or if it is another distraction, but this was posted on Twitter in Twit Longer in regard to the Stolen MJ Catalog of unreleased Music. This is looking like a lot of nothing, but I thought in all fairness I would post the TwitLonger here. You can comment below. Whatever happens between Sony and MJJC is not going to change what is going on in the world and I prefer not to give any more attention to it than this:
BREAKING: 2 UK men arrested and charged with hacking Sony Music and stealing $250 million in unreleased Jackson songs |
Michael Jackson Hacking: James Marks And James McCormick Charged In Sony Breach
Michael Jackson | Hackers Steal Michael Jackson's Unreleased Tracks | Contactmusic
Sony would not confirm how much music was stolen or what artists were involved. But a person familiar with the situation, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said Monday that the SUSPECTS WERE JACKSON FANS and had taken his music, including unreleased material. [Note: The 2 hackers implicated MJJC.]
Wife of one of these "hackers" wrote this:
"The press reported about my Husband is false! Its a case of them making up the parts they dont have yet, this is a stitch up from day one!"
"FACTS: 1. There never was and never has been any Hacking. 2. MJJC/Gaz are continuing to lie, he now has 3 stories of the situation!"
"FACTS: 3. The motivation behind the OPEN access to the servers was primarily to ensure the Cascio lies were stopped!"
"FACTS 4. No Access or downloading of any Previously unreleased, Unleaked or Unheard Michael Jackson song EVER happened....Cont"
"Infact those songs were taken and offered for sale to my husband and others, police are aware of these people but are not investigating! "
Her husband (known as Birchey) wrote on twitter before:
"Teddy Riley just lined the demo up behind his mix on Hollywood Tonight and then he "EQ'd" the high end out to create the bassline"
"thats why there is no character to it, it was a ridiculas thing to do, I have know idea why he didn't use original"
"I am guessing he didn't EQ the demo to get the bassline like Teddy did XD the original bass is killer!!!!!"
"Soon the TRUTH will be heard!!!!"
"Breaking News Demo, Before Teddy touched it, same vibrato....melodyne is a lie, Teddy LIED, the truth comes out within 6 months"
"if it leaks it not from me, i have no interest in that. but the truth will come"
"Back for bail 12th Sept, Me vs Sony Music, truth about the cascio tracks coming?"
"No they taking me to court, I am being accused of something I never did, scare tactics wont work, its ridiculas "
"Me to sony "Sony you're severs are open, thousands of people are getting music from them"............1 month later......servers still open"
"back on bail sept 12th, think they questioning me again, will be interesting to see what they say"
"well apparently my IP requested 49,000 downloads, guess the only 12 songs Sony listed on a printout? funny heh"
"an MJ impersonator mixed by someone impersonating a real producer................xD"
"dont worry bout me, its just smething i gotta go thru, its all bull, but in the end its all good "
"to be honest i currently have zero MJ stuff, its all sat in some crime lab somewhere gathering dust xD"
"that show was cringe worthy, a complete joke! they also happened to pick the most absurd mj fans to be on it, what an embarrassment"
"a massive Majority of the lead vocals are not Michaels
The breathing and other "aaahs" and stuff were pasted on
The songs were orginally slower in pace
The are NO claps, click or footstamps on ANY Cascio track on the vocal channel (something which to me proves this is definately not Michael behind that mic)
The songs were all recorded on various Mics
The original vocals themselves were NOT recorded badly but properly
There are tons of takes of vocals, there are several takes used on each line
There WERE backing tracks provided with the songs
There are MANY Ghost backing vocals
The only instance of a PVC Pipe being used was on about 4 lines in which they had "Michaels" vocals CLEAN and also recorded through a PVC pipe.
You don't want to know how I know
I cant and wont release any specific information but I have heard all 12 Cascio songs (Raw demos) and also seen pictures of the tracks being edited.
Certain people here can vouch for me, but a leak of certain material cant happen, at least not from me, but I feel fans need certain information, I know the songs, all of them are copy and paste cuts from at least 10 vocals each, and from viewing the waveforms of each vocal track used, there is nothing wrong with the recordings, and also no clips, claps and so on like Michael would do, the breathing and grunts have been pasted in between vocals, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.
there is breathing on them, but a majority has been pasted on, there are tracks named "MJGrunts_2" and so on, infact one song has a complete MJ beatbox intro made from 7 tracks of looped, copied and pasted MJ vocal tics.
For the vocals its clear on the editing how they have had a variety of vocal tracks to choose from, for me this points to a good explanantion, if you were to get someone to copy MJ why have them do one take? They have used the lines which fit Michaels vocals the best, the smoking gun here is the sheer amount of lead vocals and backing vocals they have.
I mentioned before there is breathing, but there is more which appear to have been put on top, not nescessarily breathing coming into a line, but more to do with little vocal ticks. The whole songs are a joke, I can tell you one song used 9 vocal tracks to complete ONE lead vocal, which tbh isn;t a big deal in a real studio situation but when we are told the vocals are one take its weird "
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If these guys really can prove at the court that Cascio's tracks were fake - they are heros IMHO
This is the only way to stop sony from cheating, making big money on fakes and violation of Michael's discography
But can they? Against $ony? (
"if you ever tried to fight a corporation like Sony in court AND in another country,
let me tell you…you want to do other stuff with that time and money…
Even though the thing got settled in court kind of, I never felt they paid what they owed.
It’s the old question that is being asked again and again:
What’s a song worth? When does copyright start, when does it end?
Around the same time I came to the conclusion that men with guns
employed by the government can’t and won’t protect me from
situations like this in the future."
http://riotnews.tumblr.com/post/18802919868/atr-a-sony
A little background:
"Sometime in March last year, Birchey warned us that someone got HT remixes from a promotional link that Sony sent to Dj’s and told us to watch out and not allow links to it as posting links to official material is against MJJC policy.
In early April, Birchey on our forums had written that he had all 12 Cascio songs. Obviously everyone was curious about it. When we were discussing it, he said that the songs were obtained by similar fashion to the HT remixes. He said the songs were easily and openly accessible through a promotional link Sony sends out to DJ’s and that someone gave the link to him. Birchey told us that he notified Sony of the breach and helping them to stop it. Also he said that he’ll never leak the songs and will stop anyone from doing so as well. "
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This is what Charles Thomson (Award winning writer, Huffington Post blogger and media commentator) wrote about Cascio's tracks (from album Michael):
"Yes. 'Whining' about the Jackson estate releasing fake tracks under Michael Jackson's name is 'pointless'. Who cares, right?"
"It's like saying, 'Hitler's dead. Can we all just shut up now about the holocaust?'"
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. You can't just accept injustice."
" I know the truth. I've seen the voice analyses."
"I've seen conclusive voice comparisons. The nutters choose not to believe me, as is their right. But I know what I've seen."
" Absolutely. They compared the acapalla vocals from all three Cascio tracks to MJ, then to Malachi. Perfect match to the latter."
"The evidence is out there. People just choose to ignore it. Even Malachi's former producer says it's him on Breaking News."
"There is no evidence that the people the Estate said confirmed MJ's vocals actually did.
Several people who were in the meeting spoke out after and said the estate's statement was a lie."
"Estate *claims* to have lots of evidence, but to date has failed to present any of it. Fans just blindly take their word."
"Estate refused to release their voice analysis. Why? What harm would it do? Analyses I've seen show no match to MJ."
"Some of those names are only according to the Estate. Witnesses from the meeting say that statement was a tissue of lies."
"@RobLives4Love @mjYanaGirl @magicpoetryx So what're you saying? When someone powerful [censored] you in the ass, lay down and take it?"
"So Jermaine's wrong, Taj & Taryll are wrong, Paris is wrong, Latoya's wrong, Jackie & Randy are wrong - and y'all know MJ better than them?"
"And Teddy Riley thinks MJ is alive on an island somewhere. If he's your best source, I'd give it a re-think."
"i don't understand why to some fans, album sales and chart results are more important than album CONTENT."
"The family owns all the profits from the Michael album, technically, but still condemned it. 'Nuff said."
"The estate bans MJ's own mother from using his full name. The name *she* gave him. How can you condone that? It's pure evil."
" They sabotage the family at every turn, ie. banning Jermaine from Neverland when he wanted to take pics for book."
"Can anyone tell me even one remotely good reason why the Estate would want to sell Hayvenhurst? They're just evil [censored]. [censored] them."
"IMO, they want the family stuck renting so they're dependent on Estate money."
"That's why they always try to sabotage the family's income, ie Cardiff broadcast."
"We'll see. Why would they seek permission to sell Hayvenhurst if they didn't intend to sell it?"
"Sony and the Estate would crush them. They hold all the power."
"They even tried to include the fake tracks in the Immortal show until the fans gave them hell."
" put nothing past them. If they cared one iota about history, they wouldn't release fake tracks."
"They have absolutely no interest in or respect for Michael's legacy. They are actively destroying it with each passing year."
"Travesty that new fans can pick up This Is It, but can't pick up the Bad/Victory Tours!"
"There is literally no good or logical reason for the estate to do this. It's just plain [censored]. They're evil [censored]."
I agree with this guy
But...
"The audio analysis I have referred to is entirely unrelated to any court case. What you're writing about me is libelous"
"I've already stated that the voice analysis was conducted in Europe on the three legally released Cascio tracks."
"Nothing to do with unlawful downloading of unreleased tracks in the UK."
" I refused to reveal details of the analysis to protect the analyst from loonies"
***********************
That's the whole TwitLonger. The last people I believe is Sony. So that Leaves MJJC and THESE people. You Decide.
Tired of the Drama
So am I!!!
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copia y pega---->
Are the Songs Stolen? I Didn't Think So
Nothing is Sacred Anymore
I don't know how real this battle is or if it is another distraction, but this was posted on Twitter in Twit Longer in regard to the Stolen MJ Catalog of unreleased Music. This is looking like a lot of nothing, but I thought in all fairness I would post the TwitLonger here. You can comment below. Whatever happens between Sony and MJJC is not going to change what is going on in the world and I prefer not to give any more attention to it than this:
BREAKING: 2 UK men arrested and charged with hacking Sony Music and stealing $250 million in unreleased Jackson songs |
Michael Jackson Hacking: James Marks And James McCormick Charged In Sony Breach
Michael Jackson | Hackers Steal Michael Jackson's Unreleased Tracks | Contactmusic
Sony would not confirm how much music was stolen or what artists were involved. But a person familiar with the situation, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said Monday that the SUSPECTS WERE JACKSON FANS and had taken his music, including unreleased material. [Note: The 2 hackers implicated MJJC.]
Wife of one of these "hackers" wrote this:
"The press reported about my Husband is false! Its a case of them making up the parts they dont have yet, this is a stitch up from day one!"
"FACTS: 1. There never was and never has been any Hacking. 2. MJJC/Gaz are continuing to lie, he now has 3 stories of the situation!"
"FACTS: 3. The motivation behind the OPEN access to the servers was primarily to ensure the Cascio lies were stopped!"
"FACTS 4. No Access or downloading of any Previously unreleased, Unleaked or Unheard Michael Jackson song EVER happened....Cont"
"Infact those songs were taken and offered for sale to my husband and others, police are aware of these people but are not investigating! "
Her husband (known as Birchey) wrote on twitter before:
"Teddy Riley just lined the demo up behind his mix on Hollywood Tonight and then he "EQ'd" the high end out to create the bassline"
"thats why there is no character to it, it was a ridiculas thing to do, I have know idea why he didn't use original"
"I am guessing he didn't EQ the demo to get the bassline like Teddy did XD the original bass is killer!!!!!"
"Soon the TRUTH will be heard!!!!"
"Breaking News Demo, Before Teddy touched it, same vibrato....melodyne is a lie, Teddy LIED, the truth comes out within 6 months"
"if it leaks it not from me, i have no interest in that. but the truth will come"
"Back for bail 12th Sept, Me vs Sony Music, truth about the cascio tracks coming?"
"No they taking me to court, I am being accused of something I never did, scare tactics wont work, its ridiculas "
"Me to sony "Sony you're severs are open, thousands of people are getting music from them"............1 month later......servers still open"
"back on bail sept 12th, think they questioning me again, will be interesting to see what they say"
"well apparently my IP requested 49,000 downloads, guess the only 12 songs Sony listed on a printout? funny heh"
"an MJ impersonator mixed by someone impersonating a real producer................xD"
"dont worry bout me, its just smething i gotta go thru, its all bull, but in the end its all good "
"to be honest i currently have zero MJ stuff, its all sat in some crime lab somewhere gathering dust xD"
"that show was cringe worthy, a complete joke! they also happened to pick the most absurd mj fans to be on it, what an embarrassment"
"a massive Majority of the lead vocals are not Michaels
The breathing and other "aaahs" and stuff were pasted on
The songs were orginally slower in pace
The are NO claps, click or footstamps on ANY Cascio track on the vocal channel (something which to me proves this is definately not Michael behind that mic)
The songs were all recorded on various Mics
The original vocals themselves were NOT recorded badly but properly
There are tons of takes of vocals, there are several takes used on each line
There WERE backing tracks provided with the songs
There are MANY Ghost backing vocals
The only instance of a PVC Pipe being used was on about 4 lines in which they had "Michaels" vocals CLEAN and also recorded through a PVC pipe.
You don't want to know how I know
I cant and wont release any specific information but I have heard all 12 Cascio songs (Raw demos) and also seen pictures of the tracks being edited.
Certain people here can vouch for me, but a leak of certain material cant happen, at least not from me, but I feel fans need certain information, I know the songs, all of them are copy and paste cuts from at least 10 vocals each, and from viewing the waveforms of each vocal track used, there is nothing wrong with the recordings, and also no clips, claps and so on like Michael would do, the breathing and grunts have been pasted in between vocals, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.
there is breathing on them, but a majority has been pasted on, there are tracks named "MJGrunts_2" and so on, infact one song has a complete MJ beatbox intro made from 7 tracks of looped, copied and pasted MJ vocal tics.
For the vocals its clear on the editing how they have had a variety of vocal tracks to choose from, for me this points to a good explanantion, if you were to get someone to copy MJ why have them do one take? They have used the lines which fit Michaels vocals the best, the smoking gun here is the sheer amount of lead vocals and backing vocals they have.
I mentioned before there is breathing, but there is more which appear to have been put on top, not nescessarily breathing coming into a line, but more to do with little vocal ticks. The whole songs are a joke, I can tell you one song used 9 vocal tracks to complete ONE lead vocal, which tbh isn;t a big deal in a real studio situation but when we are told the vocals are one take its weird "
----
If these guys really can prove at the court that Cascio's tracks were fake - they are heros IMHO
This is the only way to stop sony from cheating, making big money on fakes and violation of Michael's discography
But can they? Against $ony? (
"if you ever tried to fight a corporation like Sony in court AND in another country,
let me tell you…you want to do other stuff with that time and money…
Even though the thing got settled in court kind of, I never felt they paid what they owed.
It’s the old question that is being asked again and again:
What’s a song worth? When does copyright start, when does it end?
Around the same time I came to the conclusion that men with guns
employed by the government can’t and won’t protect me from
situations like this in the future."
http://riotnews.tumblr.com/post/18802919868/atr-a-sony
A little background:
"Sometime in March last year, Birchey warned us that someone got HT remixes from a promotional link that Sony sent to Dj’s and told us to watch out and not allow links to it as posting links to official material is against MJJC policy.
In early April, Birchey on our forums had written that he had all 12 Cascio songs. Obviously everyone was curious about it. When we were discussing it, he said that the songs were obtained by similar fashion to the HT remixes. He said the songs were easily and openly accessible through a promotional link Sony sends out to DJ’s and that someone gave the link to him. Birchey told us that he notified Sony of the breach and helping them to stop it. Also he said that he’ll never leak the songs and will stop anyone from doing so as well. "
---
This is what Charles Thomson (Award winning writer, Huffington Post blogger and media commentator) wrote about Cascio's tracks (from album Michael):
"Yes. 'Whining' about the Jackson estate releasing fake tracks under Michael Jackson's name is 'pointless'. Who cares, right?"
"It's like saying, 'Hitler's dead. Can we all just shut up now about the holocaust?'"
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. You can't just accept injustice."
" I know the truth. I've seen the voice analyses."
"I've seen conclusive voice comparisons. The nutters choose not to believe me, as is their right. But I know what I've seen."
" Absolutely. They compared the acapalla vocals from all three Cascio tracks to MJ, then to Malachi. Perfect match to the latter."
"The evidence is out there. People just choose to ignore it. Even Malachi's former producer says it's him on Breaking News."
"There is no evidence that the people the Estate said confirmed MJ's vocals actually did.
Several people who were in the meeting spoke out after and said the estate's statement was a lie."
"Estate *claims* to have lots of evidence, but to date has failed to present any of it. Fans just blindly take their word."
"Estate refused to release their voice analysis. Why? What harm would it do? Analyses I've seen show no match to MJ."
"Some of those names are only according to the Estate. Witnesses from the meeting say that statement was a tissue of lies."
"@RobLives4Love @mjYanaGirl @magicpoetryx So what're you saying? When someone powerful [censored] you in the ass, lay down and take it?"
"So Jermaine's wrong, Taj & Taryll are wrong, Paris is wrong, Latoya's wrong, Jackie & Randy are wrong - and y'all know MJ better than them?"
"And Teddy Riley thinks MJ is alive on an island somewhere. If he's your best source, I'd give it a re-think."
"i don't understand why to some fans, album sales and chart results are more important than album CONTENT."
"The family owns all the profits from the Michael album, technically, but still condemned it. 'Nuff said."
"The estate bans MJ's own mother from using his full name. The name *she* gave him. How can you condone that? It's pure evil."
" They sabotage the family at every turn, ie. banning Jermaine from Neverland when he wanted to take pics for book."
"Can anyone tell me even one remotely good reason why the Estate would want to sell Hayvenhurst? They're just evil [censored]. [censored] them."
"IMO, they want the family stuck renting so they're dependent on Estate money."
"That's why they always try to sabotage the family's income, ie Cardiff broadcast."
"We'll see. Why would they seek permission to sell Hayvenhurst if they didn't intend to sell it?"
"Sony and the Estate would crush them. They hold all the power."
"They even tried to include the fake tracks in the Immortal show until the fans gave them hell."
" put nothing past them. If they cared one iota about history, they wouldn't release fake tracks."
"They have absolutely no interest in or respect for Michael's legacy. They are actively destroying it with each passing year."
"Travesty that new fans can pick up This Is It, but can't pick up the Bad/Victory Tours!"
"There is literally no good or logical reason for the estate to do this. It's just plain [censored]. They're evil [censored]."
I agree with this guy
But...
"The audio analysis I have referred to is entirely unrelated to any court case. What you're writing about me is libelous"
"I've already stated that the voice analysis was conducted in Europe on the three legally released Cascio tracks."
"Nothing to do with unlawful downloading of unreleased tracks in the UK."
" I refused to reveal details of the analysis to protect the analyst from loonies"
***********************
That's the whole TwitLonger. The last people I believe is Sony. So that Leaves MJJC and THESE people. You Decide.
Tired of the Drama
So am I!!!
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