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Janet Jackson - "20 Y.O."

EDUITO dijo:
Lo que se queja JD es que para que un disco tenga éxito tiene que ser también promocionado por la vía POP y Virgin Records no ha invertido ni un céntimo en promoción, NI UNO.

Bueno, de esto ya he hablado en otros post anteriores, en el mundo eso es verdad pero en usa es falso. Si virgin no hubiese sacado el cd single a 49 centimos, call on me no hubiese llegado a número uno de lña lsita de R&B, porque las ventas digitales no van bien y el airplay tampoco.
La promoción la ha diseñado Jermaine, al igual que todo lo demás referente a esta era. Él es el que creia (y asi lo ha dicho) que lo que había que hacer con esto disco era ganarse al publico y las emisoras urban, y eso es lo que ha hecho. Se ha dedicado a ese mercado y ha salido mal, y claro, Janet que va a decir, ¿que la culpa la tiene su novio?. Tampoco digo que jermaine sea el causante de todos los problemas, porque está claro que en el damita jo no estuvo, pero todo el diseño de promoción de usa lo ha hecho él y ha habido mucha promoción alli. Ella es la que en mi opinión se está relajando desde hace algunos años y no se da cuenta de que su publico va creciendo y le interesan otros temas a parte del sexo, y al publico nuevo también, porque para ver a una artista hablar de sexo o ser provocativa prefieren que sea alguien de su misma edad.
 
pues no digo que me guste el disco completo..pòrqueeso es dificil pero me fascinan estos temas:

So excited

Get it out me

Show me

Do it 2 me

Call on me

This body

Days go by

Enjoy
 
Press Conference in Tokyo
Janet was giving a press conference in the Hyatt Hotel in Tokyo today to promote her new album "20 Y.O".

Janet, who was dressed in a bright red kimono said she is preparing a tour, with rehearsals to begin at the end of the year. She said she will likely be on the road from March or April and Japan, she said, is on her list of stops. "I always enjoy myself in Japan, even though the majority of my time is work-related," she said. "I will definitely be back."



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Yahoo Live Talk

Janet made a Live Talk at Yahoo Japan 2 hours ago, right after the Press Conference.


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Para bajarse la LIVE TALK:

http://rapidshare.com/files/394990/Yahoo_Japan_Livetalk_with_Janet__Oct2306_.asf

1 Of The Biggest Selling Single

Janet's "Call On Me" which was released this early summer has now stayed at #1 on the Hot 100 Single Sales Chart for 6 weeks. It becomes her longest stay at the top. The previous record was for That's the Way Love Goes which spent 5 weeks at the top. Congratulations to Janet !


* Por cierto unbreakableboy a mi tambien me gusta el disco y a muchos otros de este foro , no solo a allnite :p
 
MJ-INVINCIBLE dijo:
* Por cierto unbreakableboy a mi tambien me gusta el disco y a muchos otros de este foro , no solo a allnite :p

Decidlo de vez en cuando, que al pobre oL naiT le dejais sólo en la batalla :jajaja: A mi hay canciones, como So Excited, Show Me y sobre todo Get it out me, que me parecen aceptables, y si fueran de otra cantante diría que son temazos. Pero el disco tiene muchísimo relleno malo incluso para un artista novel (para mi gusto), y las buenas al menos yo las esperaba mejores. Pero lo dicho, ayudadle un poco que sólo se le oye a él :p Yo ya pensaba que no le gustaba a nadie nada más que a él. Desde luego lo que destaca son comentarios de "decepción" ante el disco, incluso hasta para los que pensamos que tiene alguna que otra canción que "no está mal".
 
Yo ya dije en su momento que me encantaba. Y me siguen encantando!!!

Por favor, que saque enjoy como single (se esa convirtiendo en una de mis canciones favoritas de janet, aunque la favorita es y sera siempre the pleasure principle)

Por cierto: 6 semanas numero 1 con COM!!!! eso es algo inaudito!!:D :D
 
El dia de hoy por el Canal E! saldrà un especial de Janet titulado : Janet Jackson Exposed en donde hablarà de la promociòn del disco,mas sobre Jermanie y ella y màs de ellos dos .




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E! Entertainment Special "Janet Jackson: Exposed" at 9 PM ET. The documentary follows Janet as she promotes her "20 Y.O." album. You can watch a short preview on their website by clicking here.
 
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unbreakableboy dijo:
Decidlo de vez en cuando, que al pobre oL naiT le dejais sólo en la batalla :jajaja: A mi hay canciones, como So Excited, Show Me y sobre todo Get it out me, que me parecen aceptables, y si fueran de otra cantante diría que son temazos. Pero el disco tiene muchísimo relleno malo incluso para un artista novel (para mi gusto), y las buenas al menos yo las esperaba mejores.Pero lo dicho, ayudadle un poco que sólo se le oye a él :p Yo ya pensaba que no le gustaba a nadie nada más que a él. Desde luego lo que destaca son comentarios de "decepción" ante el disco, incluso hasta para los que pensamos que tiene alguna que otra canción que "no está mal".

jajaja si pobre oL naiT el solo contra todos , a mi me parece un buen disco tampoco una obra maestra pero tiene track que son destacables como , pero eso de que dices que si fuera de otro artista y no de Janet te pareceria bueno no se me hace justo , pero en fin es tu opinión.;)

Siguiendo con opiniones quie les dejo la critica que hace The New Yorker , que intenta y logra ser una critica bastante objetiva del disco,

Janet Jackson at forty.
by SASHA FRERE-JONES
Issue of 2006-10-30
Posted 2006-10-23


The title of Janet Jackson’s new album, “20 Y.O.,” is both an invitation to take note of her perpetually youthful looks (aided by the ritual magazine photographs of her near-naked, now forty-year-old body) and a directive for how to think about her career. Jackson, like her eight siblings, began performing as a child—much longer than twenty years ago. In the nineteen-seventies, she played the innocent, physically abused preteen Penny Gordon on the TV series “Good Times,” and in the early eighties she recorded two not particularly good or popular albums. Then, in 1986, she released “Control,” the record that she evidently considers to be the true starting point of her career. Produced by the Minneapolis musicians Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, who at the time were best known for having played with Prince, “Control” made everybody involved famous. Songs like “Nasty” and “What Have You Done for Me Lately?” presented a brash, sexually confident young woman singing over big, blocky dance beats that split the difference between pop and R. & B. (Pop-culture fans will remember 1986 as the year that the phrase “Miss Jackson, if you’re nasty” entered the lexicon.)

“Control” and Jackson’s subsequent album, “Rhythm Nation,” established her as a star, independent of her world-consuming brother Michael. This is psychologically freighted stuff: Jackson’s albums sounded little like her brother’s work and a lot like that of Prince, Michael’s only serious rival; Jam and Lewis were proving that they could create a version of Minneapolis funk that was as brawny as Prince’s without his help. Their records helped establish what became the dominant sound in dance music for several years: brisk, minimal drum patterns; bursts of keyboard and guitar; and lyrics delivered with some of hip-hop’s attitude but conveying a more old-fashioned sense of wit and double entendre.

“Control” and “Rhythm Nation” succeeded because of the music, not the artist. The albums might have been equally big no matter who was singing, and possibly better, had one of Jackson’s more vocally gifted peers—say, Jody Watley—been involved. At her best, Jackson has a small voice, with not much grain or tone. (At her worst, she wanders off pitch.) And though breaking free of her family’s influence was a genuine achievement, the independent-young-woman persona she adopted on “Control” and “Rhythm Nation” felt just as contrived as the wholesome character she played on TV. It wasn’t until 1993, when Jackson released “Janet,” that she became a musician with a sound (gentle but funky) and a topic (sex and sexuality) of her own. (Admittedly, “13 Y.O.” would have worked less well as a title.)

“Janet” seemed to draw inspiration from Madonna’s album “Erotica,” which was released the previous year. Although Jackson is the lesser artist, the two have some affinities: both are singers of average ability who dance well and carefully control their public images. “Erotica” was Madonna’s transition from aerobic dance music to slower tempos, more varied textures, and a complex view of sex. Within four years, Madonna was on to something else, but Jackson stuck with the style, making high-tech, medium-temperature, low-impact bedroom music her signature. “That’s the Way Love Goes” was the biggest hit from “Janet,” spending eight weeks at No. 1. The conceit is a standard seduction scenario—candles, undressing, sexual abandon—but Jackson makes it believable. Jam and Lewis provide her with a loop from James Brown’s “Papa Don’t Take No Mess,” and pad it with a second guitar and soft keyboards. This spare music allows Jackson to drop into her natural voice, a near-whisper. She is unable to perform the clichés—high notes, melismatic runs—that might tempt a more dramatic singer. Her simplicity draws you in.

Jackson’s forte is not bump and grind or dazzling philosophical smut. Despite the spectacular wardrobe malfunction, the flashy ensemble dancing, and the killer abs, she wants to examine sex as an intimate experience and prefers to keep the music down while she’s talking. Given her vocal limitations, this would have been wise even if she had nothing to say. But, in her modest way, she does. She has devoted entire albums to parsing how, as she put it on “Velvet Rope” (1997), “this special need that’s within us brings out the best yet worst in us.” (Of course, in pop music success has nothing to do with intellectual modesty: ten of Jackson’s singles have gone to the top of the charts. Among female artists, only Diana Ross, Whitney Houston, Madonna, and Mariah Carey have had more No. 1 songs.)

Unfortunately, “20 Y.O.” is a hodgepodge that fails to make the most of Jackson’s quiet strengths. The single “So Excited” is a loud dance tune that is reminiscent of the songs on “Control” and requires Jackson to act tough and predatory in a way that feels forced. The guest rapper Khia, a minor expert in sexual braggadocio, effortlessly dispenses saucy taunts: “Act bad, don’t hurt me. Look sexy, talk dirty.” Jackson, however, sounds slightly ludicrous when she sings, “Throw me up against whatever’s close and get to bossin’ me around.”

“Do It 2 Me” is more successful, a return to Jackson’s easy conversational style. She is searching for her lover, who is apparently not a new acquaintance: “My first and only call is to you, time after time, babe, throughout my life.” The chorus is the request you’d expect, delivered as a playful admonishment: “Come do your job tonight; you got me hot tonight. Watch what you’re doing, we ain’t moving till you get it right.” The music is a mid-tempo swing, understated but firm, punctuated by handclaps and by low swoops of a sampled string section. “Do It 2 Me” is carefully balanced on the line between slow jams—music for groups of two or three—and upscale dance music made for a crowded club. This versatility, combined with Jackson’s generally inoffensive nature, may explain how music so unassuming could become so popular. (Or perhaps it’s simply that Janet is the only sane Jackson still making records.)

“This Body” is about a more distant, though perhaps more durable, relationship: the one between Jackson and men who have an acute appreciation of her magazine appearances. Jackson addresses her most ardent fans (“Just had to buy me, had to try me, oooh, you’re in love with the hottest girl in the magazine”); offers them advice (“What you’re lookin’ for is right on page 52”); and dangles wish fulfillment before them (“Now would you be ready if I stepped off these pages?”). All this will make some guy very happy. The chorus is for the rest of us, a simple statement that returns to Jackson’s central theme: how she feels. When she sings, “This body of mine, you’ll go crazy when you see me,” she sounds seductive, if a little sleepy. At the end of the chorus, though, she is fully awake, redeeming the song’s dopey premise by repeating, but with conviction, the equally dopey verse “Start shakin’ and movin’ all around.” She is riding the album’s best beat, sinuous and dark, and the music expands, incorporating a rhythmic pattern of heavy breathing and—metaphor alert—the sound of a jet taking off. Forget her admirers; this is Janet enjoying herself.

Jam and Lewis have worked on all of Jackson’s albums since 1986, and they are co-producers of “20 Y.O.,” along with Jackson herself and one notable addition: Jackson’s boyfriend of the past four years, the producer Jermaine Dupri. In 1990, when Dupri was seventeen, he produced a song for the rap group Silk Tymes Leather that made Billboard’s hip-hop and R. & B. chart. Two years later, he produced Kris Kross’s song “Jump,” which went to No. 1. Now, at the age of thirty-four, Dupri is one of the most consistently employed producers in hip-hop and R. & B. His talent is his anonymity: he has no particular style, and that prevents him from going out of fashion.
Pop-music snobs usually don’t rank Dupri as high as they do auteurs like Dr. Dre and the Neptunes, and they fail to recognize his knack for isolating what is best about a trend and exaggerating it to wonderful effect; if Atlanta snap music is spare and weird, he’ll make it positively barren and dissonant. He also usually hires a better singer or rapper than the trend’s originators could afford. Dupri co-produced much of Mariah Carey’s “The Emancipation of Mimi,” which was the biggest-selling record of 2005. It seems that, by providing Jackson with a similar mix of dance tunes, hip-hop, slow jams, and ballads, Dupri hoped to give her an equally successful comeback album. (Jackson’s last album, “Damita Jo,” was a commercial disappointment.) To this end, Dupri, Jam, and Lewis brought in rappers to contribute guest verses, and sampled songs from the eighties. (This practice has nothing to do with Jackson’s work from twenty years ago; these days, samples of eighties tunes sell songs.)

With a few exceptions, what Jackson’s production team has come up with is no match for the minimalist come-ons of current R. & B. singers like Ciara or the lush balladeering of singers like Carey. Much of “20 Y.O.” is simply pleasant, professional, and ultimately forgettable music suspended between styles. The album is best when it lets Jackson relax, as she does on the gorgeous “Take Care,” which bears an odd resemblance to her brother Michael’s song “Human Nature.” It is unabashedly sweet music, full of space. Slowly, she makes her way toward you. It seems only right to make the next move, and inch a little closer
 
Es interesante lo q dice, pero no estoy d acuerdo en alguna cosilla...Janet si sabe cantar bien, la voz la tiene bonita, algo limitada, pero esta bien...Luego compara a Madonna y Janet bailando y eso no lo perdono...Janet baila realmente espectacular y Madonna no, Madonna sabe bailar y hace alguna coreografia, pero cualkiera q vea un concierto d Janet alucinara, es todo coreografia currada y Janet sabe bailar muy bien, al menos para mi...

Me hizo gracia pq empieza con cosas q dije hace algunos posts...los primeros discos de Janet son buenos por si mismos, no pq los cante Janet...y estos ultimos Damita y 20YO no son buenos por si mismos (mi opinion) y Janet no les aporta nada especial, no los hace mejores d lo q son...

Decia Nacho Canut q Michael canta tan bien q cante lo q cante siempre queda bien...supongo q eso es una buena definicion de cantante-artista, yo por ejemplo ultimamente oigo mucho invincible, basta con apreciar como lo canta Michael para darse cuenta q hace el disco aun mejor de lo q es
 
Qué tal está el nuevo disco de Janet?? me gustaría comprarmelo, pero aún no he escuchado ni una sola canción del disco....hay alguna web dónde pueda escuchar alguna canción??
gracias!;)
 
Oficial,Dupri deja Virgin .






Jermaine Dupri leaving Virgin Records

NEKESA MUMBI MOODY

Associated Press

NEW YORK - Jermaine Dupri - superproducer, rapper, and the boyfriend of Janet Jackson - has confirmed to The Associated Press that he has quit as a top executive at Jackson's label, Virgin Records, amid disappointing sales of Jackson's new album.

"Since there are so many rumors running rampant about my position at Virgin Records, I feel that it is necessary to set the record straight," Dupri said Wednesday in a statement released to the AP. "I was not forced out of the company, I made a decision that it was in my best interest to leave."

Dupri became head of urban music at Virgin, a unit of EMI Group PLC, just last year. His abrupt departure comes after the underwhelming performance of Jackson's latest release, "20 Y.O."

Jackson's album failed to debut at the top of the charts last month, then steadily fell to her current No. 19 position on the Billboard 200. Dupri was an executive producer of the record and helped determine its creative vision, along with Jackson and her longtime producers, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
Coming after the flat performance of 2004's "Damita Jo" and Jackson's infamous Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction, "20 Y.O." was seen as an opportunity for Jackson to re-establish herself as the multiplatinum hitmaker she has been for most of her 20-year-plus career.

Dupri, who declined further comment on his departure, has produced a multitude of hits for other artists, most notably last year for diva Mariah Carey. His work on her multiplatinum, Grammy-winning "The Emancipation of Mimi" was widely credited as being a chief reason for her comeback. He also was a top producer on Usher's eight-million selling "Confessions" album.
 
+ De la salida de JD de Virgin

JD posts message on MySpace regarding decision to leave Virgin


In a message posted this morning on MySpace.com, Jermaine Dupri elaborated slightly on his decision to leave his position at Virgin Records.

"...as you probly herd I been goin to war with virgin over the lack of there paticipation and promotion on 20yo," Dupri wrote.

He continues, "for all of you askin ?s about the rumors jus no i dont play games when it comes to my music i did'nt get in the buisness for the bullshit and politics nore do i ever wanna be in the company of people that dont no what there doin."
 
Yo diría que 20 Y.O. ya está muerto comercialmente hablando; como lo estuvo Invincible desde enero del 2002.
 
yo he visto un video de janet de su nuevo disco no se si es el de su primer sencillo donde esta todo muy colorido y sale con un cantante de hip hop me parece que ahora no recuerdo como se llama jajajaja pero bueno el caso es que no me a gustado pero me falta escuchar mas del disco :) quiza los demas sencillos y videos si me gusten.

janet es muy linda pero a mi punto de vista creo que no le favorecio la imagen para este video bueno espero no se enojen los fans de janet conmigo ;) a mi si me gusta janet¡ ademas de que es la hermana de michael :p tuvo que sacar el carisma que llevan en la sangre ademas de el talento.:)
 
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