Según Foxnews.com, Melville se negó a hablar con el médico cuando Mez se lo pidió. Segun fuentes cercanas a MJ han dicho a Fox, se estaba vistiendo cuando sintió un agudo dolor en la espalda que le dejó inmóvil. Pensó que en urgencias le darían algo para relajar los músculos y se podría ir, pero le han tenido en el hospital durante varias horas.
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len@
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pbr dijo:
SI? pues ojala nunca ocurra lo que me encantaria que ocurriera, por que le deseo lo mejor a Michael pero en una de estas que os encanta poner en tela de jucio lo que hace por que no sabeís una puta mierda luego de la verdad, me encantaria que un dia como hoy Michael diera un comunicado despues de que os hayais hartado de insultarle, diciendo que se ha caido por las escaleras y se ha jodido algo grave, ya os podias meter buestras dudas y basuras por donde yo me se.
Mientras Michael no os de una excusa A VOSOTROS:jajaja: justificable y creible entonces siempre sera un cuento chino, cuanto amor propio....
Lo mejor que podemos hacer los fans de MJ es mantenernos unidos, pero la verdad que con este hombre no ganamos para sustos. Yo llevo 20 años viendo tremendas meteduras de pata de MJ de las cuales sale siempre positivamente... pero no se puede tentar tanto a la suerte. Si yo fuera MEZ ahora mismo me lo querria comer crudo. Eso es lo que pienso.
kary
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coleguita dijo:
coleguita, hace ya varios minutos que empezo la sesion normal en la corte.....nadie sabe que paso cuando Michael estuvo con Melville encerrado, pero seguro que se llevo el sermon de su vida
Ahora estan en sesion, de hecho, tiene que estar declarando Gavin, pues estuvo sentado en el estrado todo el tiempo desde que Michael llego
Walt
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Según CREO haber leído hace nada en las noticias de texto inferiores de Fox, Melville ha explicado a los jurados la tardanza de MJ, y sus amenazas originales de arresto y pérdida de fianza; según parece, esta actitud amenazante la hizo extensiva a todos los miembros de las partes y del propio jurado, y pidio a estos últimos que lo hoy acontendido no influya en su decisión final de culpabilidad o inocencia.
A ver...
A ver...
Os pongo un artículo del mismo periodista que ayer denunciaba la farsa de la familia Arvizo y que puse en el subforo de noticias. Hoy lo que viene a decir es que quizá a Michael le venga bien un tiempo tras las rejas para aprender la lección.
Hala, ahí tenéis. Los que insultais, como tenéis mucho tiempo, si queréis lo traducís:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7148998/
Jackson in chains?
Time for the pop star to learn a lesson about the law
By Jon Bonné
MSNBC
We already waited a week when Michael Jackson got what seemed to be the flu. Now MJ was M.I.A. once again, supposedly at a hospital in the nearby town of Santa Ynez, getting treated for what his attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. called a “serious back problem.”Judge Rodney Melville bought none of it. He threatened to revoke Jackson's $3 million bail and toss the King of Pop in the hoosegow if he didn't appear in the hour.
Right on, judge.
Melville has an unenviable task. He has to keep this trial from becoming an uncontrollable three-ring act. He has a defendant who's made his livelihood by being a spectacle — on and off stage. A defendant who, in response to being arraigned, thought it'd be fun to dance atop an SUV. (He also showed up 20 minutes late for that, prompting a rebuke that perhaps Melville figured would set the singer straight. No such luck.)
What part of this doesn't Jackson get? Sure, no one wants to face their accuser — a boy who Jackson took under his wing and probably feels betrayed by. Sure, it's a stressful moment. But Jackson has known for months now that this moment would come.
A less wealthy defendant wouldn't have been able to pay even a fraction of the multimillion-dollar bail. They would be scrambling to change out of an orange prison jumpsuit into whatever court clothes could be scrounged up by a harried, overworked defense lawyer. They would not be passing the night at their louche 2,600-acre ranch before getting an escorted ride to court, complete with umbrella-wielding bodyguards. (A corrections van and armed officers would be more like it.)
A lawyer's burden
You had to feel a bit sorry for Mesereau as he stood in the glare of TV lenses Thursday morning, chatting nervously into his cell phone.
He's done an exceptional job this week of poking holes in district attorney Tom Sneddon's case — only to have all that progress unraveled by a defendant whose antics are, frankly, a nose-thumbing to his legal team, the court and the jury. Not exactly how I'd act toward the people who'll determine whether I go to jail or not.
As the final moments of the hour Melville provided for MJ to appear ticked away — as the on-air countdown clocks reminded us — we watched tensely as the black SUVs rolled up. Jackson stumbled out (in pajama bottoms, no less!) and hobbled into the courthouse, several minutes late.
It's not yet clear whether the judge will make good on his threat. But regardless of guilt or innocence, maybe MJ should face another stint behind bars while this trial unfolds — because he just doesn't seem to get it. If there ever was evidence to bolster the theory that Jackson is divorced from reality, living his life in his own little Neverland as a never-grown-up boy, we saw it today.
Even if you believe Jackson's claims that he was roughhoused during his last stint in jail after his 2003 arrest, neither his fame nor his clearly fragile mental state excuse him from the fact that he's a 46-year-old adult facing criminal charges.
After all, Martha Stewart, no shrinking violet herself in the ego department, knew to stick to a judge's clock, show up and behave herself. Even those aging New York wiseguys who wheeled along their oxygen tanks made their court dates.
A lesson to learn
So perhaps an object lesson in the realities of the criminal justice system would help the pop star understand that a courtroom isn't a balcony in Berlin, and all the adoring fans in the world don't mean that you supercede the legal process. This is People v. Jackson, not the “Dangerous” tour, and the judge who presides over your fate isn't an opening act.
“We don't want to jump to conclusions,” Jackson family friend and MSNBC analyst Stacy Brown told his on-air counterparts.
Oh, yes we do. Maybe Jackson has a bad back, maybe he needed medication, maybe he needed to go to the hospital. Melville has shown in the past that he's not uncaring to medical problems — he did have a chat with Jackson's doctor after the flu episode, no — and it would have been easy enough for Jackson's camp to make a single phone call.
But the look of surprise (and maybe a bit of disgust) on Mesereau's face is a good sign the veteran lawyer can't control his client.
Maybe a bit of time behind bars will help punctuate a lesson that Jackson seems thoroughly unable to absorb.
© 2005 MSNBC Interactive
Hala, ahí tenéis. Los que insultais, como tenéis mucho tiempo, si queréis lo traducís:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7148998/
Jackson in chains?
Time for the pop star to learn a lesson about the law
By Jon Bonné
MSNBC
We already waited a week when Michael Jackson got what seemed to be the flu. Now MJ was M.I.A. once again, supposedly at a hospital in the nearby town of Santa Ynez, getting treated for what his attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. called a “serious back problem.”Judge Rodney Melville bought none of it. He threatened to revoke Jackson's $3 million bail and toss the King of Pop in the hoosegow if he didn't appear in the hour.
Right on, judge.
Melville has an unenviable task. He has to keep this trial from becoming an uncontrollable three-ring act. He has a defendant who's made his livelihood by being a spectacle — on and off stage. A defendant who, in response to being arraigned, thought it'd be fun to dance atop an SUV. (He also showed up 20 minutes late for that, prompting a rebuke that perhaps Melville figured would set the singer straight. No such luck.)
What part of this doesn't Jackson get? Sure, no one wants to face their accuser — a boy who Jackson took under his wing and probably feels betrayed by. Sure, it's a stressful moment. But Jackson has known for months now that this moment would come.
A less wealthy defendant wouldn't have been able to pay even a fraction of the multimillion-dollar bail. They would be scrambling to change out of an orange prison jumpsuit into whatever court clothes could be scrounged up by a harried, overworked defense lawyer. They would not be passing the night at their louche 2,600-acre ranch before getting an escorted ride to court, complete with umbrella-wielding bodyguards. (A corrections van and armed officers would be more like it.)
A lawyer's burden
You had to feel a bit sorry for Mesereau as he stood in the glare of TV lenses Thursday morning, chatting nervously into his cell phone.
He's done an exceptional job this week of poking holes in district attorney Tom Sneddon's case — only to have all that progress unraveled by a defendant whose antics are, frankly, a nose-thumbing to his legal team, the court and the jury. Not exactly how I'd act toward the people who'll determine whether I go to jail or not.
As the final moments of the hour Melville provided for MJ to appear ticked away — as the on-air countdown clocks reminded us — we watched tensely as the black SUVs rolled up. Jackson stumbled out (in pajama bottoms, no less!) and hobbled into the courthouse, several minutes late.
It's not yet clear whether the judge will make good on his threat. But regardless of guilt or innocence, maybe MJ should face another stint behind bars while this trial unfolds — because he just doesn't seem to get it. If there ever was evidence to bolster the theory that Jackson is divorced from reality, living his life in his own little Neverland as a never-grown-up boy, we saw it today.
Even if you believe Jackson's claims that he was roughhoused during his last stint in jail after his 2003 arrest, neither his fame nor his clearly fragile mental state excuse him from the fact that he's a 46-year-old adult facing criminal charges.
After all, Martha Stewart, no shrinking violet herself in the ego department, knew to stick to a judge's clock, show up and behave herself. Even those aging New York wiseguys who wheeled along their oxygen tanks made their court dates.
A lesson to learn
So perhaps an object lesson in the realities of the criminal justice system would help the pop star understand that a courtroom isn't a balcony in Berlin, and all the adoring fans in the world don't mean that you supercede the legal process. This is People v. Jackson, not the “Dangerous” tour, and the judge who presides over your fate isn't an opening act.
“We don't want to jump to conclusions,” Jackson family friend and MSNBC analyst Stacy Brown told his on-air counterparts.
Oh, yes we do. Maybe Jackson has a bad back, maybe he needed medication, maybe he needed to go to the hospital. Melville has shown in the past that he's not uncaring to medical problems — he did have a chat with Jackson's doctor after the flu episode, no — and it would have been easy enough for Jackson's camp to make a single phone call.
But the look of surprise (and maybe a bit of disgust) on Mesereau's face is a good sign the veteran lawyer can't control his client.
Maybe a bit of time behind bars will help punctuate a lesson that Jackson seems thoroughly unable to absorb.
© 2005 MSNBC Interactive
Que nadie tiene que insultar leñe!
Que el que insulta pierde toda la razon si es que la lleva.
Aqui estamos para opinar libremente y apoyar a Michael y ser criticos con el en el caso en que tengamos que serlo. Y como aun no tenemos datos contrastados de nada pues todo lo que haremos sera dar palos de ciego, lo cual es muy valido.
Haya paz..
Que el que insulta pierde toda la razon si es que la lleva.
Aqui estamos para opinar libremente y apoyar a Michael y ser criticos con el en el caso en que tengamos que serlo. Y como aun no tenemos datos contrastados de nada pues todo lo que haremos sera dar palos de ciego, lo cual es muy valido.
Haya paz..
neylo
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Bueno, ante todo, no queiro q nadie se ofenda por el comentario q voy a realizar, esto no kiere decir q ya no sea fan ni nada, q aki hay q explikarlo todo, para q no se te echen al cuello.
Me parece q el dia de hoy, Michael Jackson ha cometido un error bastante grande, por muy famoso q sea, en el estado en el q se encuentra su vida personal ahora, no creo q se pueda permitir la libertad de actuar como se le antoje, si bien tenia unos dolores de espala, cosa q no discuto, podria haber esperado al fin de semana para ir al hospital, porque, ¿cuantos de nosotros hemos sufrido una ciatica y hemos ido a currar como cualkiera?
No creo q su problema de espalda, justifique el acto de hoy, me da la sensacion, de q ha estado jugando, poniendo a prueba la opinion general.
Probalemente, para mi , todo esto seria mas justificable, si hubiera avisado con antelacion a sus abogados y al juez, y hubiera pedido un permiso o algo asi, para llegar mas tarde(aunq no sé si esto se puede hacer).
Para mi , su actuacion de hoy es indefendible, pero ya digo q esto es según mi opinion.
El Sr. Jackson, se esta enfrentando a cargos muy graves, a 20 años de prision, y no me parece q actuar de esta forma, saltandose las reglas, sea lo más correcto.
Todos estamos pidiendo una justicia para este caso, una justicia q se rige por unas leyes , q el dia de hoy Michael no ha cumplido...es bastante extraño.
Me parece q el dia de hoy, Michael Jackson ha cometido un error bastante grande, por muy famoso q sea, en el estado en el q se encuentra su vida personal ahora, no creo q se pueda permitir la libertad de actuar como se le antoje, si bien tenia unos dolores de espala, cosa q no discuto, podria haber esperado al fin de semana para ir al hospital, porque, ¿cuantos de nosotros hemos sufrido una ciatica y hemos ido a currar como cualkiera?
No creo q su problema de espalda, justifique el acto de hoy, me da la sensacion, de q ha estado jugando, poniendo a prueba la opinion general.
Probalemente, para mi , todo esto seria mas justificable, si hubiera avisado con antelacion a sus abogados y al juez, y hubiera pedido un permiso o algo asi, para llegar mas tarde(aunq no sé si esto se puede hacer).
Para mi , su actuacion de hoy es indefendible, pero ya digo q esto es según mi opinion.
El Sr. Jackson, se esta enfrentando a cargos muy graves, a 20 años de prision, y no me parece q actuar de esta forma, saltandose las reglas, sea lo más correcto.
Todos estamos pidiendo una justicia para este caso, una justicia q se rige por unas leyes , q el dia de hoy Michael no ha cumplido...es bastante extraño.
si kereis eliminar mi post acerlo, pero yo lo digo y MJ la ha cagado MUCHO hoy. pero mucho mucho mucho
Simplemente lo comento: Os recuerdo que desde hace años se viene rumoreando mucho que Michael podría tener lupus. Una persona con lupus no tiene dolores de espalda y problemas neurológicos porque le dé la gana o para dar la nota, precisamente.
Dicho esto, podeis dejar de insultaros, please?
Dicho esto, podeis dejar de insultaros, please?
Ronald
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Yo no sé si sabés que Michael es una persona "normal"
aunque no os lo creáis algunos.
No entiendo cómo algunos pueden llegar a pensar que MJ está actuando, sólo vale con mirarle a la cara al pobre. No creo que sea mala leche lo que lleve encima, sino dolor. Tampoco sabemos qué dolor tiene ni qué coño es, pero lo que está claro es que aun tiene los huevos de saludar a los fans, y algunos enciman se lo reprochan :vom:
Desde luego que me ha sorprendido que hayan MUCHOS qu piensen así.
The Panther, no voy a decir nada del insulto, ni te conozco ni nada, ni te voy a pedir perdón ni mucho menos; pero espero que comprendas la situacion.
No entiendo cómo algunos pueden llegar a pensar que MJ está actuando, sólo vale con mirarle a la cara al pobre. No creo que sea mala leche lo que lleve encima, sino dolor. Tampoco sabemos qué dolor tiene ni qué coño es, pero lo que está claro es que aun tiene los huevos de saludar a los fans, y algunos enciman se lo reprochan :vom:
Desde luego que me ha sorprendido que hayan MUCHOS qu piensen así.
The Panther, no voy a decir nada del insulto, ni te conozco ni nada, ni te voy a pedir perdón ni mucho menos; pero espero que comprendas la situacion.
